People somehow appalled that PSVR2 support won't be included should bear in mind that F1 23 development will have started a couple of years ago. There's also a fair chance of a major game engine change soon once support for last gen consoles is dropped, after which effort for something like this feels more likely to me.
I wouldn't be surprised if EA were also talking time to assess PSVR2 sales and the likely market if they did go to the effort of adding support. Those who own and like the system will obviously want support but if this is a tiny fraction of total players then they need to weigh up putting resources into this over other changes that far more players would appreciate.
@Ultrasonic_77 Sales have nothing to do with it, psvr2 was released in feb. Less than 4 months before release of the game. They had to wait atleast 1 month te look at sales and normaly a game goes gold atleast 2 weeks for release so if they wanted to add support development had to start way before release. As for time, vr could easy be outsourced to another studio as they did in the past so that isnāt a reason as well. They allready have the vr code they just need to port is to ps5, stupid thing is sinds the game is ported to pc, xbox, ps5 whatever why leave the vr part out. It just doensnāt make sense
There are processes before they just dump a load of time and resources into something. Especially VR that has struggled to get any traction for decades.
A company like EA doesnāt gamble innovating. They wait see whatās going to definitively work make money before they invest.
VR isnāt worth is to them yet the numbers are not there. I have a PS5 and have no intention of buying a VR kit abs the same can be said about the majority of PS5 players.
Bigger the cooperation the least likely they are to innovate. They leave the indie developers to take most off the gambles.
only reason itās on GT7 is cause VR2 is made by Sony. So it GT7
@ScarDuck14 The point is if no one makes games for vr nobody is going to buy vr and if nobody is buying vr nobody will make games. However they have developt vr for pc so itās not like they need to start from scratch for psvr2
@ha6hk3w77mwjWhich is probably why VR has taken so many decades to gain any traction. Itās definitely on the up. But itās a few years away atleast before it becomes the norm
Problem is despite psvr2 being awesome. The numbers who have it are still very low.
@ScarDuck14 Thatās pure speculation, you havnāt talked to the majority of people, just a small amount on internet. I donāt kniw how many millions ps5 have been sold but you read maybe a cupple of hundred post
@ha6hk3w77mwjDo you think when polls are made they ask majority off people? Ofcourse they donāt. Most polls on all things are made from a few thousand people. I watch a lot I read a lot and I talk to a lot. And Iāve been around for a very along time. To know a thing or two.
@ScarDuck14 Iāve been gaming for 30 years, i know a thing of two aswell. And making a survey based on comments on website doesnāt mean anything. How these things go is at some point Sony will release sale numbers and then you know. If you read a lot than you know based on internet comments that a lot of people who never bought a F1 game where planning on buying thus one for the vr support
Vast majority of gamers are casual. Vast majority that buy and play F1 games are casual. They donāt play enough to be ready to pay out for VR until itās the must have. Currently it isnāt.
@ha6hk3w77mwj wrote: @ScarDuck14The point is if no one makes games for vr nobody is going to buy vr and if nobody is buying vr nobody will make games. However they have developt vr for pc so itās not like they need to start from scratch for psvr2
VR was introduced on PC where there was a larger established interest in VR. Also note that F1 22.in VR on PC has not been very successful overall from what I can tell.
To go back to one of your earlier replies, sales/revenue will absolutely be the ultimate deciding factor, but this can be taking a long term view rather than immediately being profitable. My guess is that PSVR2 support will come in time but my points as to why it hasn't with F1 23 remain valid I feel.
@Ultrasonic_77I donāt know if they were or notā¦ But do think itās will be Sonys own studios that will be the main factor on how quickly the player base grows. Which is a huge plus for psvr2 as there are many. If they knock it out off the park like GT7 then more people will invest in VR. But donāt expect to see this until next year.
NFS Unbound is I suppose a test case for EA as itās new gen onlyā¦. Sales suffered hugely for it. So launching a game for still a small player base on PS5 along with an even smaller VR player base? Nope
Well... sales/revenue will absolutely be the ultimate deciding factor.
Agree... almost.
But what if we look about sales from different angle? I mean - how many EA loses, not adding support for PSVR?!
Of course - if there's no VR support for PC version, then it's totally understandable, that EA will not invest in making ONLY PSVR2 version... But - if F1 have VR support for PC version, then I'm pretty sure, that making PSVR2 version isn't so big investment, that it will not worth for EA.
For me it is simple - GT7 "ruined" me! I will never buy any game without PSVR2 support anymore. For example - I bought every single release F1 series since 2008 I guess. I will definitely skip F1 23, if it will not support PSVR2.
@Toy4584 Thatās my point exectly how much would it cost to port something they allready developt. I will buy F1 ā23 for my collection sinds i own every F1 game but i will buy it either next year when itās ā¬10 or better used when itās cheap, i wonāt play it anyway. Like you said GT7 VR haa changed the game
Of course, every PSVR2 owner isn't racing genre fan. (but I'm pretty sure, that most PSVR2 owners got GT7).
But even if there are only 20% or even 10% PSVR2 owners, who like to play racing games, then I'm quite sure, that most of them will skip new racing games, if theres no PSVR2 support.
I don't know, how many PSVR2 are sold... Some say 200 000, some say 300 000, same say more... But even with 200 000 sold PSVR2, I guess it's potentially 10 000 to 50 000 buyers lost for F1 23....
@Toy4584 You maybe rightā¦ But bug companies like EA will wait until itās in the hundreds of thousands. Which is most likely next year which will make more sense as next years game will almost certainly be current gen only.
Like I said before companies like EA follow trends they donāt gamble by trying to set them.
Right now there are no "proper" PSVR2 racing games (except GT7)... To be honest - there are not many "proper" games for PSVR2 at all! š
So - I'm pretty sure, that PSVR2 owners are "hungry" right now! Hungry for any "decent" game, even if they usually don't buy or play some genres... Like me - I bought Horizon, just because it's in VR...
I guess right now, if F1 will have PSVR2 support, there are plenty of buyers, who in "normal" condition will never buy racing games. š
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Hi All,
Just wanna say: please add support to PSVR 2 on F1 23 šš
Thanks
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People somehow appalled that PSVR2 support won't be included should bear in mind that F1 23 development will have started a couple of years ago. There's also a fair chance of a major game engine change soon once support for last gen consoles is dropped, after which effort for something like this feels more likely to me.
I wouldn't be surprised if EA were also talking time to assess PSVR2 sales and the likely market if they did go to the effort of adding support. Those who own and like the system will obviously want support but if this is a tiny fraction of total players then they need to weigh up putting resources into this over other changes that far more players would appreciate.
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People somehow appalled that PSVR2 support won't be included should bear in mind that F1 23 development will have started a couple of years ago. There's also a fair chance of a major game engine change soon once support for last gen consoles is dropped, after which effort for something like this feels more likely to me.
I wouldn't be surprised if EA were also talking time to assess PSVR2 sales and the likely market if they did go to the effort of adding support. Those who own and like the system will obviously want support but if this is a tiny fraction of total players then they need to weigh up putting resources into this over other changes that far more players would appreciate.
Good thing I didnāt preorder though. No F1 23 for me.","body@stringLength":"263","rawBody":"@ha6hk3w77mwj Too bad, but hence weāre talking EA here, I should have seen it coming.
Good thing I didnāt preorder though. No F1 23 for me.","author":{"__ref":"User:user:4039027"},"isEscalated":null,"postTime":"2023-05-11T12:55:49.395+01:00"},"ForumReplyMessage:message:8403853":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","id":"message:8403853","revisionNum":1,"uid":8403853,"depth":11,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:f1-23-en"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:8403789"},"subject":"Re: F1 23 PSVR 2","readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:8403853"},"body":"@coopa300 No i will skip F1 ā23 also, itās a real shame","body@stringLength":"167","rawBody":"@coopa300 No i will skip F1 ā23 also, itās a real shame","author":{"__ref":"User:user:3793700"},"isEscalated":null,"postTime":"2023-05-11T13:07:00.730+01:00","parent":{"__ref":"ForumReplyMessage:message:8403852"}},"ForumReplyMessage:message:8403854":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","id":"message:8403854","revisionNum":1,"uid":8403854,"depth":12,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:f1-23-en"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:8403789"},"subject":"Re: F1 23 PSVR 2","readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:8403854"},"body":"
Extremely disappointing. So that's me out this year as I have no interest in the game now and I guess I wont be the only one feeling this way. See you in a years time to see if they realise what opportunity they just let pass by. Good look to the next racing game that chooses to ride on the wave of GT7's success in VR.
Poor codemasters and EA. really poor.
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Extremely disappointing. So that's me out this year as I have no interest in the game now and I guess I wont be the only one feeling this way. See you in a years time to see if they realise what opportunity they just let pass by. Good look to the next racing game that chooses to ride on the wave of GT7's success in VR.
Poor codemasters and EA. really poor.
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They should open a Go Fund Me page so we can all chip inā¦
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Less than 4 months before release of the game. They had to wait atleast 1 month te look at sales and normaly a game goes gold atleast 2 weeks for release so if they wanted to add support development had to start way before release. As for time, vr could easy be outsourced to another studio as they did in the past so that isnāt a reason as well. They allready have the vr code they just need to port is to ps5, stupid thing is sinds the game is ported to pc, xbox, ps5 whatever why leave the vr part out. 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There are processes before they just dump a load of time and resources into something. Especially VR that has struggled to get any traction for decades.
A company like EA doesnāt gamble innovating. They wait see whatās going to definitively work make money before they invest.
VR isnāt worth is to them yet the numbers are not there. I have a PS5 and have no intention of buying a VR kit abs the same can be said about the majority of PS5 players.
Bigger the cooperation the least likely they are to innovate. They leave the indie developers to take most off the gambles.
only reason itās on GT7 is cause VR2 is made by Sony. So it GT7
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@ha6hk3w77mwjWhich is probably why VR has taken so many decades to gain any traction. Itās definitely on the up. But itās a few years away atleast before it becomes the norm
Problem is despite psvr2 being awesome. The numbers who have it are still very low.
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@ha6hk3w77mwjDo you think when polls are made they ask majority off people? Ofcourse they donāt. Most polls on all things are made from a few thousand people. I watch a lot I read a lot and I talk to a lot. And Iāve been around for a very along time. To know a thing or two.
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Vast majority of gamers are casual. Vast majority that buy and play F1 games are casual. They donāt play enough to be ready to pay out for VR until itās the must have. Currently it isnāt.
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@ha6hk3w77mwj wrote: @ScarDuck14The point is if no one makes games for vr nobody is going to buy vr and if nobody is buying vr nobody will make games. However they have developt vr for pc so itās not like they need to start from scratch for psvr2
VR was introduced on PC where there was a larger established interest in VR. Also note that F1 22.in VR on PC has not been very successful overall from what I can tell.
To go back to one of your earlier replies, sales/revenue will absolutely be the ultimate deciding factor, but this can be taking a long term view rather than immediately being profitable. My guess is that PSVR2 support will come in time but my points as to why it hasn't with F1 23 remain valid I feel.
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I don't think PSVR2 dev kits were even available to non-first-party studios when F1 23 development started.
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@Ultrasonic_77I donāt know if they were or notā¦ But do think itās will be Sonys own studios that will be the main factor on how quickly the player base grows. Which is a huge plus for psvr2 as there are many. If they knock it out off the park like GT7 then more people will invest in VR. But donāt expect to see this until next year.
NFS Unbound is I suppose a test case for EA as itās new gen onlyā¦. Sales suffered hugely for it. So launching a game for still a small player base on PS5 along with an even smaller VR player base? Nope
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Well... sales/revenue will absolutely be the ultimate deciding factor.
Agree... almost.
But what if we look about sales from different angle? I mean - how many EA loses, not adding support for PSVR?!
Of course - if there's no VR support for PC version, then it's totally understandable, that EA will not invest in making ONLY PSVR2 version... But - if F1 have VR support for PC version, then I'm pretty sure, that making PSVR2 version isn't so big investment, that it will not worth for EA.
For me it is simple - GT7 \"ruined\" me! I will never buy any game without PSVR2 support anymore. For example - I bought every single release F1 series since 2008 I guess. I will definitely skip F1 23, if it will not support PSVR2.
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Of course, every PSVR2 owner isn't racing genre fan. (but I'm pretty sure, that most PSVR2 owners got GT7).
But even if there are only 20% or even 10% PSVR2 owners, who like to play racing games, then I'm quite sure, that most of them will skip new racing games, if theres no PSVR2 support.
I don't know, how many PSVR2 are sold... Some say 200 000, some say 300 000, same say more... But even with 200 000 sold PSVR2, I guess it's potentially 10 000 to 50 000 buyers lost for F1 23....
(maybe I'm totally wrong, of course). š
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Like I said before companies like EA follow trends they donāt gamble by trying to set them.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2023-05-13T19:52:17.382+01:00","lastPublishTime":"2023-05-13T19:52:17.382+01:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":696},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:f1-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:f1-23-en/message:8403789/message:8403877","repliesCount":11,"readOnly":false,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:8403878":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:8403878","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:8403878":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:3335408"},"id":"message:8403878","revisionNum":1,"uid":8403878,"depth":22,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:f1-23-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumReplyMessage:message:8403877"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:8403789"},"subject":"Re: F1 23 PSVR 2","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:8403878"},"body":"@ScarDuck14 Agree!... Well - it's more about \"politics\", than selling... š","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"75","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2023-05-13T19:53:49.077+01:00","lastPublishTime":"2023-05-13T19:53:49.077+01:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":695},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:f1-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:f1-23-en/message:8403789/message:8403878","repliesCount":3,"readOnly":false,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:8403879":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:8403879","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:8403879":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:3335408"},"id":"message:8403879","revisionNum":1,"uid":8403879,"depth":23,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:f1-23-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumReplyMessage:message:8403878"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:8403789"},"subject":"Re: F1 23 PSVR 2","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:8403879"},"body":"
And one more \"point\"...
Right now there are no \"proper\" PSVR2 racing games (except GT7)... To be honest - there are not many \"proper\" games for PSVR2 at all! š
So - I'm pretty sure, that PSVR2 owners are \"hungry\" right now! Hungry for any \"decent\" game, even if they usually don't buy or play some genres... Like me - I bought Horizon, just because it's in VR...
I guess right now, if F1 will have PSVR2 support, there are plenty of buyers, who in \"normal\" condition will never buy racing games. š
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\"Philosophically\"...
What is bigger challenge for EA - optimizing F1 23 for PS4 console or porting VR to PSVR2? š
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@ScarDuck14 wrote: @Toy4584You maybe rightā¦ But bug companies like EA will...
A bit harsh...
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