Are the teammate driver stat upgrades broken in My Team?I have the fourth best car development wise in the field. My team mate has, with boosts from facilities and activities, an 81 driver rating with mid 80’s in everything but Experience, and an 86 Pace stat. Their Focus in mid 90’s. Meanwhile they are still qualifying and running near the back of the field while drivers with similar ratings but worse cars are running mid pack.Given my team mates stats in relation to the rest of the grid and the ranking of my car overall in the development screen I would expect them to be at least competing in the mid pack and having a chance for points.Team mate performance almost seems to still be stuck on their original numbers instead of their boosted numbers. My team mate is also not getting any closer to me on overall lap time which I would expect them to do as their stats increase.

I just cannot understand how CM/EA can't see how bad the feature is after this long with us saying about it and with us all giving sensible and realistic ideas to fix it and make it better It's with things like this that I really believe they just do not read or listen to what we have to say. It's not even like we're asking for a big new feature to be added, it's literally just changing some numbers around which should take a professional game developer a matter of minutes.I just want to hear from someone as to why they think this feature is a good idea and the thinking behind it because I am honestly lost for ideas as to how anyone came up with the idea and continue to let it ruin career mode.

So to highlight the difference the personnel facility boosts are making I've done some qualifying sessions at Bahrain on the same difficulty, same setup in GP mode and race one of Career mode and straight away you'll see the difference. I didn't take pictures of every session but I did five of each and the results were fairly similar.I can only paste three pictures here but I have the second half of the field for all of these results. The first two are from GP mode (I'm playing Hulkenberg since his stats are just wrong) and the third is career mode. Other screenshots from career have Norris matching Alonso in them but I put this one up to show Russell grabbing pole.First major difference is how much faster career mode is. Then having a look at individual drivers and teams:- Mercedes and Ferrari, average out at around half a second behind the Red Bull's in GP mode (Perez sometimes only a tenth up and occasionally behind). In career mode, they fight for pole. Note in GP mode is that they occasionally get beaten by Alpine as well whereas in career this never happens.- Aston Martin. Alonso's results are the big giveaway to how bad the stat boosts are. Fighting for 3rd in GP mode and usually about 0.4 behind Max but beating Ferrari and Merc. Career mode, consistently 7th/8th, usually 0.3 behind Ferrari and Merc and barely beating Norris in a faster car. Stroll is another big giveaway. Top ten consistently in GP mode, usually no higher than 12th and frequently on the cusp of Q1 knockout in career.- Mclaren. Realistic results in GP mode (excluding the upgraded Austria, Silverstone results). Fighting Alonso for P7 in career mode from the start despite the car difference. Will undoubtedly be fighting for wins in season 2 or earlier. Piastri not very representative due to his stats being too low.- Other teams, specifically Haas and Williams can fight better and for top ten in GP mode. Always Q1 knockouts in career.So as we can see, the five teams getting +10 from the start are overperforming whereas the teams with +5 are underperforming. Aston and McLaren are the clear indicators here as to why having a massive permanent boost to all drivers is ruining the balance of career mode.Please remove these boosts, Codies. Or at the very least, nerf them hard so they don't affect the results this badly.

Thank you for sharing this. I picked the first screenshot (GP) and the third screenshot (Career) and quickly ran some numbers.DriverGP Quali (s)CM Quali (s)Diff (s)Diff (%)Verstappen90.79390.2880.510.56%Alonso91.10290.9560.150.16%Perez91.11990.3380.780.86%Leclerc91.13990.3360.800.88%Russell91.15290.2530.900.99%Sainz91.31090.3520.961.05%Hamilton91.32090.6520.670.73%Stroll91.55591.3300.230.25%Ocon91.66590.9190.750.81%Gasly91.73691.0270.710.77%Norris91.90391.2850.620.67%Should be obvious that Career Mode is quite faster, in fact, for these drivers, the average performance increase is 0.70% which is massive. To illustrate, the performance difference between McLaren and Williams in the last Silverstone GP was 0.656%. It is also easy to see that stats increasing up to 100 hurts the big drivers with very high stats, namely Verstappen and Hamilton. Alonso should be in this group but I think that being in Aston hurts more than his stats since Stroll also doesn't win as much as the likes of Perez, Leclerc, Russell and Sainz, all of them winning a lot more stats for being in the big teams but also being a lot closer due to capping.Just to establish a difference everyone can understand I checked F1Laps with the average times. This is not very scientific because F1Laps relies on TT player times vs GP AI times but I couldn't think of a different way to do this. The average GP Quali time was 1:31.345 which renders a difficulty of 85 and the average Career Quali time was 1:31.703 which renders a difficulty of 95. I know it's not a good way to measure this, but it's a nice thought experiment and a 10 point difference is quite massive.

I shamefully want to keep this post on the first page and with attention.So I am posting my latest experience with MYTEAM2 Season - ONLY 10 races (100% race) to try to advance slower, less practice program, less RDplayer RD - REDUCED / ai RD - STANDARDplayer XP - REDUCED / ai XP - STANDARDplayer TEAM XP - REDUCED / ai TEAM XP - STANDARDplayer MONEY - REDUCED (on the first day of the first season to avoid bugs. See my post about it) / ai MONEY - STANDARDSpecial RULE* MAX 2 practice programs per race (total 20 practice programs/year)It may have felt a little underwhelming the first year (but I liked the struggle of the first year). as it looked like I couldn't catch up with other cars (even if the gap between best and worst was closing from Delta 130 performance to Delta 70 performance)but already halfway through the 2nd year, I had the best car! And that was trying my best to handicap my points. And even more sad, the delta performance of the car by the end of the second year was 50 points!If you add this to 8-10 pilots being 100 capped because of the silly bonus, it gets really boring and flat!

@Pekish79 wrote:I think they made it that way so a person can use the starting driver (ability 60-70) and keep themIf they like without being too penalized but they forgot that AI get the bonus toomaybe they deactivated the bonus for ai when they raised it from 1-2-3 to 5-5-5 do we any prof that the ai really get the bonus it would look like so since verstappen never really dominate much in and of my re-run of my team and often Ferrari or Mercedes seem to win so often when resbull has the best car and supposedly much better driver It would only make sense the balance I see if all top team driver are actually all maxed at 100 that much balance over top teamYeah the F2 drivers are probably the reason for the design choice but they seemingly didn't bother to account for the fact the F1 drivers get it as well. Pourchaire getting +10 on his stats doesn't matter at all if everyone gets them, they're still the same stats lower..Reason why Max doesn't dominate in game is he can only get 100 pace as well, so he only gains +5 whereas Perez gets the full +10 to get him to 97 pace. So what should be a difference of 8 in pace between them is actually only 3 which is why Perez is a lot closer than he should be. Same reason Ferrari and Merc are closer as they're getting the full increase. Guarantee in GP mode where there's no stat bonus that Max is the correct distance ahead of the field and Alonso beats the Merc's and Ferrari's.The ideal scenario, as Meza says and I've suggested before us that the personnel facility gets reworked into a training facility.But with what we have now, they can just decrease the boost to something like +1/+3/+5 so it's still a nice boost but it's not completely broken. If they're concerned about the F2 drivers being too slow...they should be buffing the F2 drivers rather than breaking the mode altogether or making it so they actually do develop faster than F1 drivers.

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ScarDuck14
Legend
3 years ago
@Apophis-STR Yup and Bottas wasn’t dominating! Good times 🙄
Apophis-STR
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@pekish79 I myself have had encounter progression being too quick the last couple of years, that's why (on PC) I lowered the R&D generate rate by at least 50%-75% on most of my playthrough, which made it almost impossible to max out a car at any point of the 10 seasons.
Liaveal
Rising Veteran
3 years ago
I really wish I had the self control not to buy the game this year on my usual console and waited for my pc to arrive because sounds like the mods have improved since the last time I got one on PC. Being able to change driver stats and resource rates would literally improve my personal experience with career mode completely. On top of being able to use real driver models. I really don't want to give this game any more money to fix it with mods myself and not have the actual game be fixed properly.
Pekish79
3 years ago
it's a good idea to fix it on my PC but I think it's such a easy fix that we should push them to do it for everybody to enjoy
AquaOrenji
3 years ago
@Apophis-STR Lol I saw that mod on RD and thought "Huh, this could be a neat little fix, wonder if I'll ever need it." Sure enough, this thread pops up and I am now downloading said mod. The mod community really are Codemasters' caretakers at this point. Fire every single one of them and let the community develop the game.
RVladimiro
3 years ago
I asked this on another thread but since it's being discussed here, I'll try it again. Assuming I have a baseline difficulty I'm comfortable with in GP mode, how much should I lower it to compensate for the stats boost in career mode? As anyone tried this approach?
Apophis-STR
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@Liaveal Yea never ever bothered with console version of this series, the only things that kept it afloat were the mods, and even with that it’s only barely floating atm if I’m very honest, because CM actually made modding quite a lot more difficult this year.
Pekish79
3 years ago
I wouldn't lower it; make a test run of a 10-race season (pick the 10 races you feel are your standard relationship with AI level) 5 lap race and one-shoot qualif
this is the best way to figure it out.
Starting already with a 23 race full and full and hoping to guess the ai level of difficulty is a waste of time nothing like trying it yourself and since you have a starting point use that as first test and figure it out after a very short first season.
Liaveal
Rising Veteran
3 years ago
So to highlight the difference the personnel facility boosts are making I've done some qualifying sessions at Bahrain on the same difficulty, same setup in GP mode and race one of Career mode and straight away you'll see the difference. I didn't take pictures of every session but I did five of each and the results were fairly similar.
I can only paste three pictures here but I have the second half of the field for all of these results. The first two are from GP mode (I'm playing Hulkenberg since his stats are just wrong) and the third is career mode. Other screenshots from career have Norris matching Alonso in them but I put this one up to show Russell grabbing pole.
First major difference is how much faster career mode is. Then having a look at individual drivers and teams:
- Mercedes and Ferrari, average out at around half a second behind the Red Bull's in GP mode (Perez sometimes only a tenth up and occasionally behind). In career mode, they fight for pole. Note in GP mode is that they occasionally get beaten by Alpine as well whereas in career this never happens.
- Aston Martin. Alonso's results are the big giveaway to how bad the stat boosts are. Fighting for 3rd in GP mode and usually about 0.4 behind Max but beating Ferrari and Merc. Career mode, consistently 7th/8th, usually 0.3 behind Ferrari and Merc and barely beating Norris in a faster car.
Stroll is another big giveaway. Top ten consistently in GP mode, usually no higher than 12th and frequently on the cusp of Q1 knockout in career.
- Mclaren. Realistic results in GP mode (excluding the upgraded Austria, Silverstone results). Fighting Alonso for P7 in career mode from the start despite the car difference. Will undoubtedly be fighting for wins in season 2 or earlier. Piastri not very representative due to his stats being too low.
- Other teams, specifically Haas and Williams can fight better and for top ten in GP mode. Always Q1 knockouts in career.
So as we can see, the five teams getting +10 from the start are overperforming whereas the teams with +5 are underperforming. Aston and McLaren are the clear indicators here as to why having a massive permanent boost to all drivers is ruining the balance of career mode.
Please remove these boosts, Codies. Or at the very least, nerf them hard so they don't affect the results this badly.
ScarDuck14
Legend
3 years ago
@Liaveal Nice work. For those of us who are aware of the boosts it’s really no surprise. But grateful you took the time to test it so we have actual stats. 👍.

But I can only see this being addressed if career modes get a complete overhaul. 😔

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