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AquaOrenji's avatar
2 years ago

Oh, that's more like it

After restarting my MyTeam over and over again, I just had my most entertaining race in this year's game. They actually managed to fix the AI!

I had an epic battle for a point in a race that had me destined for a 15th at my best circuit, but the Hards started to really come to me midway through the 2nd stint. Picked off Zhou and Tsunoda over three laps going down the front straight (DRS/ERS works as well for me as it does for them now) and was resigned to 13th when Albon made a mistake(!) in Minerali and held up the two behind him. Piastri suffered damage apparently and I was able to catch him and use DRS, slingshotting me within striking distance of Albon and Bottas. Sold out my ERS to get within DRS range and held onto Bottas for dear life. Few laps later he finally went after Albon and I went after them both, 3-wide into Tamburello! Got the move done and the next four laps was musical chairs between the three of us down the front straight. Bottas got around Albon but had nothing for me in the final two laps as I pulled out of DRS range (their tires seem to wear at or even higher than my rate and there's a definite, almost too obvious crossover point). Finally, a points finish I could be proud of!

The racing on this iteration of my career has been nothing short of outstanding. With the exception of one strange occurrence of final lap rubberbanding in Baku, the AI feels neither stupid nor unfair so far. The best part isn't the enhanced speed (going from a 107-110 down to 102-104) but just how ferocious the AI finally is. I actually had to drive with my mirrors and had to make wise business decisions to let someone past, knowing that they weren't going to back off. And they now respect that I'm in position but aren't going to surrender the position before we even reach the apex. The days of self-imposing "house rules" in regards to racecraft are finally over. I'm still yet to see whether my biggest gripe with the AI has been fixed--not reacting to late-race changing track conditions, but Monaco's forecast looks like it'll be offering the chance to find out.

So far though, there is an extraordinary improvement to the AI and I'm grateful for that. Well done Codies. Be like this for all aspects of your game and we'd have an all-timer on our hands.   

15 Replies

  • I’m currently 80-85 so, certain tracks that’s too low maybe but I used to be on 95-100 on 22. 

    handling on the pad is so much better so you’d think I’d be a bit faster but…

    have you found you’ve had to turn the difficulty down this year?

  • Monzstar83's avatar
    Monzstar83
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    @AquaOrenji wrote:

    @Monzstar83 wrote:

    @AquaOrenji glad you had a good experience with the AI. If you can, I’d be interested to know what level you set your AI level for the race compared to the suggested AI on F1 laps: https://www.f1laps.com/ai-difficulty-calculator/.

    I’m currently working my way through all the tracks on TT, to figure out what AI level I should use for each track, and will start a MyTeam season once done with this - would be keen to know what level you used compared to this to see if I should make any adjustments. 


    I can maybe give it a go for a few laps later after I get thru with my BG3 fix. Though I'm kinda skeptical about f1laps' ability to translate time trial performance to career difficulty. I remember going on there early in the game's release--Imola, in fact--and it spitting out that I should be low 80's when I was already clubbing the AI at 95. With the new update and better AI, I'm pretty comfortable in the low 100's. I suppose I'm curious if the algorithm has improved in the six weeks since.


    @AquaOrenji Thanks for the info. I’d appreciate it if you could give it a shot - no rush. I did start a MT career before on the last patch, did a few races. IIRC based on my best TT time at Bahrain, it gave me a 101 AI, which was roughly right. 

    Since the new patch I decided to get together a base setup at each track that felt comfortable and see the best time I could get with it. It’s now giving me a 106 for Bahrain - and my lap time is now around 0.3s faster on the new patch.Unfortunately I didn’t keep a record of the previous AI levels suggested by F1 laps on the last patch and I don’t know if they’ve updated their calculator for the new patch. But more than that, because you mentioned you lowered your difficulty for a good AI experience, I’m wondering if I should do the same with what it suggests. 

  • Monzstar83's avatar
    Monzstar83
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    @Johnboy1983 wrote:

    I’m currently 80-85 so, certain tracks that’s too low maybe but I used to be on 95-100 on 22. 

    handling on the pad is so much better so you’d think I’d be a bit faster but…

    have you found you’ve had to turn the difficulty down this year?


    On the previous patch I needed around 10 points higher than what I was on for 22 to keep it challenging. Interestingly on the new patch my TT lap times are on average 0.3s faster than on the previous patch. Haven’t done a MT career yet so not sure if that is maintained.

  • AquaOrenji's avatar
    AquaOrenji
    2 years ago

    @Monzstar83 wrote:

    @AquaOrenji wrote:

    @Monzstar83 wrote:

    @AquaOrenji glad you had a good experience with the AI. If you can, I’d be interested to know what level you set your AI level for the race compared to the suggested AI on F1 laps: https://www.f1laps.com/ai-difficulty-calculator/.

    I’m currently working my way through all the tracks on TT, to figure out what AI level I should use for each track, and will start a MyTeam season once done with this - would be keen to know what level you used compared to this to see if I should make any adjustments. 


    I can maybe give it a go for a few laps later after I get thru with my BG3 fix. Though I'm kinda skeptical about f1laps' ability to translate time trial performance to career difficulty. I remember going on there early in the game's release--Imola, in fact--and it spitting out that I should be low 80's when I was already clubbing the AI at 95. With the new update and better AI, I'm pretty comfortable in the low 100's. I suppose I'm curious if the algorithm has improved in the six weeks since.


    @AquaOrenji Thanks for the info. I’d appreciate it if you could give it a shot - no rush. I did start a MT career before on the last patch, did a few races. IIRC based on my best TT time at Bahrain, it gave me a 101 AI, which was roughly right. 

    Since the new patch I decided to get together a base setup at each track that felt comfortable and see the best time I could get with it. It’s now giving me a 106 for Bahrain - and my lap time is now around 0.3s faster on the new patch.Unfortunately I didn’t keep a record of the previous AI levels suggested by F1 laps on the last patch and I don’t know if they’ve updated their calculator for the new patch. But more than that, because you mentioned you lowered your difficulty for a good AI experience, I’m wondering if I should do the same with what it suggests. 


    Sorry for the delay! Monaco was up next and I needed to focus on that. Finally did some laps at Imola; stole the setup from the top guy like I usually do. Wound up doing a 1:15.131 which put me at 103 on f1 Laps. Surprised as that's exactly the median of my AI range. Tbf though, my previous best was set while I was still in "Career" mentality where I try to drive more comfortably and to my personal style, and that had me at a 95--so still 10ish below what I typically drive in MyTeam. That's why I feel that if you just drive normal then whatever you set in F1 Laps, you can just add 10+ to in Career mode because you're not driving with a hotlapper mentality in a Career race, much less with an extreme-meta hotlap setup that isn't necessarily tailored to you. F1 Laps underestimates your potential.

  • Monzstar83's avatar
    Monzstar83
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    @AquaOrenji wrote:

    Sorry for the delay! Monaco was up next and I needed to focus on that. Finally did some laps at Imola; stole the setup from the top guy like I usually do. Wound up doing a 1:15.131 which put me at 103 on f1 Laps. Surprised as that's exactly the median of my AI range. Tbf though, my previous best was set while I was still in "Career" mentality where I try to drive more comfortably and to my personal style, and that had me at a 95--so still 10ish below what I typically drive in MyTeam. That's why I feel that if you just drive normal then whatever you set in F1 Laps, you can just add 10+ to in Career mode because you're not driving with a hotlapper mentality in a Career race, much less with an extreme-meta hotlap setup that isn't necessarily tailored to you. F1 Laps underestimates your potential.

    @AquaOrenji cheers - some useful info there. I’m fairly consistent with my lap times so even driving comfortably I can get to about between 2-5 tenths of my best. So I’ll build an average like that into the lap times I enter into F1 Laps to get a more reasonable idea and adjust from there 🖖🏽

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