I agree with you to some degree.
BUT you ARE talking elitism. You're a bit annoyed that the WS replay doesn't work, you mentioned content creation - first world problems. It's not game-breaking nor does it affect all but a small subset of players. Shouldn't be broken, I wish I could tell you why it is.
Most play single screen (on a TV, because they have a console). There's plenty of people wanting a wheel, but they don't have much more disposable income than the cost of the game and the cost of the sub to play (XBL/PSN/GamePass, whatever.) Plenty also play on relatively modest PCs and don't have the extra for upgrades or they may have been bought them.
It's interesting, but yeah PC is not cheap, the kit that I have has evolved. I have a Quest 2 I bought solely to try this game, it's my sum total of VR involvement (last game). I found it a bit lacking TBH, but then other gameplay is lacking also. I spent a relatively modest £600 on a capable GPU (more than a console), but I don't feel entitled, perhaps just a bit foolish in retrospect. Haven't even connected it to this build for this game.
Anyway, hopefully it should be a relatively simple fix but it might get picked up for the next game along with a whole host of other things that really shouldn't have got in there. But, having owned the entire franchise I don't hold out hope that it will. We are already fixing things that have broken before (and seeing them regress time and time again).
I just try to cut noise. Plenty of people have got PCs and don't appreciate what they have or that it takes time and knowledge to gain the understanding to configure it to the best result. I can make the game work without it crashing my PC, but the gameplay is so terrible. Crossplay has been a disaster in implementation for various reasons and I don't think versioning is very robust, leading to the lobby splits and results messing up.
Graphically there are lots of bugs, probably as a result of trying to implement HDR/DLSS/FSR 2, etc. but even on systems that don't support or don't have the tech.
Many, many more game-breakers before this unfortunately.
Please... for the last time, you guys are playing with heavy words. Like you said, it's a GAME environment, right?... (I didn't know that it was so easy to access the "elite" level of the society :D wheel+seat versus controller, and you're there! :D ). Quit it, it means nothing. And you're assuming (I'm a total stranger to you) that these are my/our main problems in life: a bug in a game, content creation... no! I make ZERO money out of it, so the "first-world problems" claim doesn't apply either. But my videos (not the best out there to be honest, still, I love sharing experiences with other players, it's fun) still help make the game visible and have some kind of little traction. But that's just secondary to me, although it makes sense to me to promote a product that I like! These are just nice hobbies for the vast majority, a good escape from the harsh reality, a passion for the sport, and so on. Easy stuff. All these are part of the experience. But you guys are ready to draw attention from the main problem and start conflicts instead, using uncontrollable words. Other people, much clever than me, are climbing mountains, see the world, have a beer with friends, and stuff. I like the virtual world, I like the 3D creation and I like creating tracks and cars for AC for example. But it's not my entire life, actually, I just have 3-4 games that I like and always follow and play: F1/AC(mainly F1 here too) and GTA/Mafia/RDR... there are kids 1/10th of my age with hundreds of games in their list... if I'm elitist, what are they? if you buy a console, you're a VERY lucky human being on this planet already... my having PLUS a medium wheel and seat, doesn't really make a wealthy filthy nasty human being, desirving to be called names on a statistically dirt-poor planet!!! On the other hand, I did pay money for these products, and I have a bit of a right to express myself, especially when there are problems. Like you said, there are heavier problems in this game, the resolution stupid thingy is just the cherry on the cake! Still, my comments are mainly about positive and constructive things, I'm not criticizing just to hear myself talking! If the devs benefit or are interested in people's opinions, not just their money, it's out of my control, but it would be nice... Because, reminder: F1 Challenge is STILL out there and receives new updates from modders, did you know that?! Did you know it is still playable AND has FFB and stuff?! AC will STILL be there for years and years, and maybe it will even work in parallel with the new AC2, depending on their offer!!! So... F1 series... I don't know, but... it might be on the wrong path already! Oh, and I have only a maximum of 200 hours for each F1 version, the entire year, PRECISELY because I have more important things to do in life, BUT when I do play it, F it, I need to immerse myself in the F1 space, the official game, like they claim! I play it with passion, I imagine myself on the track, it's a Fing modern Jules Verne!!! So, dear devs, give me the Fing official F1!!! Not F1 World crap, but THE F1!!! You know?!......... (no, look, I'm just making a point - keep the F1 World if people like it, just make the base game at the right level!). Anyway, more important and frightening: I'm talking about a game/product we're obviously all interested in around here, but the Internet reacts to ME, although it's clear that it's a common problem we should work together to solve!... Many people online are victims of this! This happens a lot, no responsibility or consequences, scary place! People don't know how to talk about principles or neutral themes anymore, but people somehow learned to instantly and blindly attack and mock and spread calumnies and hate, although it's clearly not in their best interest, and while the big companies take our money! THIS, again, it's the main disease today! Let's sleep on it! Let's not burden this topic with this nonsense anymore... otherwise, we risk losing our credibility around here, this is not helpful at all, and we all lose... Have fun, see you in F1 24!
@AndreiStamaYou posted….. . I understand that there are kids and people in general that are not really into the real F1 and they just use this game as any other random game, but I think it is important that, considering the entire Esports and FIA/F1 support around the series, they need to fulfill the demands of the passionate F1 players first, bring the game to sim level as a priority (it IS the "official" F1 game, right?!), AND include the "arcade" mode for the rest of the world so everybody can enjoy it, at any level. But when people invest in Fanatecs and Mozas and whatever, and super playseats, and create content at a very high level (sort of a free commercial for the devs in the end!)... you need to respect and address that first
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Firstly you’ll find only people who like real F1 play this game. As it’s pretty much series specific. People who dont follow real F1 but play racing games… Play GT7, Forza; NFS etc etc:
The majority of people who play F1 games. Are Real F1 fans but casual gamers. So will play on console on the sofa infront of a Tv. That is where the majority of sales is. But you said those who have invested in. Wheels and play seats and triple screens should have their needs met first. “Elitist statement”
Ideally everyone needs should be met all at once. But that won’t happen. So the game is developed to be a SimCade with easy accessibility so even 5 year olds can pick up and play. Real F1 is just as much as a commercial enterprise as it is the pinnacle of motorsport. But in F1 Money is king. Just need to look at Vegas this year. Plus all recent races that have been added is because that’s where the money is and not whether the race venue is good with a local fanbase.
You said that the game should be made a sim as a priority. So that would mean the minority sim sweats needs must be met. Another elitist statement.
The game will never be made to be a full on sim. Because majority of players as I’ve said before are casual gamers. If the game is made into a hardcore sim it will push casual gamers away. I know many people who have bought ACC but have hardly played it because the learning curve on controller is so high. If the same happened to the F1 game. Only the minority hardcore fans would be playing… It won’t sell enough copies to be financially viable.
FOM and Codemasters vision and direction for this game has only ever been for it to be a SimCade, And in recent years it’s moving more arcade. As it will appeal to more players who can feel like a F1 racer without to much effort. But you only care about sim racers getting a proper sim. And longs the sim sweats are happy. Who cares about casual gamers and young F1 fans. I mean all they do is provide majority off sales - profit- future development budget:
Yes Fanetec can’t make wheels fast enough but it’s not those who are playing F1 games who are buying the majority. It’s sim racers who race on hardcore sims. ACC and Iracing etc. The domain of the actual Elites. Where majority off F1 SimCade players avoid
Having slept on it I feel exactly the same as I did yesterday,
This is not a particularly important or priority bug. If the replay feature isn’t working, it needs fixing or removing.
Something that I think players would appreciate are less non-functional features.
AC is playable with a (decent) controller, F1 IS indeed simcade right now, it's fine, but we're talking about improving (and the replay thing here is the most insignificant theme!). "Hardcore" (sim) means nothing, another forced term. The correct practical updates we want are doable at this price. ACC is half-price (not that old). We know the problem, yes, but it can be solved from what I hear and see... the world is full of IT and design guys, but this is only about profit. So. Ok, cool. If quality and options = "elitism", ok, I'm "elite" if you say so, fine. The term doesn't do anything to me, nothing to gain or lose and I'm not embarrassed or honored by it, zero. Words. I'm a nobody, trust me, let's move on!
To the point: the game still has problems at the arcade level, 2023 "era", at least by comparison: multiplayer, graphics, modes, optimization, compatibility, concept, drivers, and so on... NOT TO MENTION I paid full price for F1 23 CE, instead of the "loyalty price" they proudly offered for customers that already had the previous F1 versions (I have all of them, full prices, full packages) - not even that, it didn't work for me and many LOYAL players, because of their sub-standard platform, programming, logistics, communication with their partners (EA/Steam...), and ultimately lack of respect! Full price, I'm fine with it either way, this is not a serious life investment, it's "just" passion and fun (the elite affords things like this), I accepted that glitch too!... I'm trying hard to be an ~optimistic guy even though I have NO reason and real resources for it, I try to find interesting things adn quality in everything, especially when it involves my passions, but we're not working toward a better solution here.
Thank you for defining my life, that's what I'm taking from here, I know who I am now 🙂 But that means we're all wasting money and time here, this page is ~useless. Maybe some people learn here how to navigate the F1 game menus or something... LOTS of crying and mindless bad reviews at this level if you browse the forums (and I'm so frustrated by it, YES there are problems, but not THOSE problems! I defend the series paying with my nerves and time, instead of just playing my game and not giving a F about the entire world around me! stupid "elitist" me!). They can't find or have the patience to discover the PLAY button FFS, this is the real level we're dealing with, so we can easily understand the company's tactics and attitude. My elitist brain is disgusted by it, I confess... I remember a time when we were controlling these things with a bulky unresponsive keyboard and a mouse full of dirt, almost zero Internet, and we were stellar, after DAYS of configuring those potato PCs (deep settings: sound, controller, graphics, EVERYTHING just to LOAD the games - that was a game in itself!). Now you say that this generation can't play AC with a controller today, when everybody's born with a computer in their diapers... what does this say, the big picture?.... oh man!..... And I'm an "elitist" nasty F!
So, we'll either quit it or we'll make the best of it. Careful, this entire "elitist first-world" thing of ours might be over right quick, considering the world right now. Bottom line, try and have a bit of fun, that's the main goal! Be well! (for real this time, I'm gone, please stop tagging me, even if you talk about me or my "elitist attitude" case, it's fine; thank you!)
Is there anyway to see if the Devs can check or fix this issue for 24 while the game is still in Beta? This issue and being able to select wet weather in time trial are the two things I’m keeping my eye on for this years title. Fingers crossed it gets sorted out.
@Noksolis4 wrote:Is there anyway to see if the Devs can check or fix this issue for 24 while the game is still in Beta? This issue and being able to select wet weather in time trial are the two things I’m keeping my eye on for this years title. Fingers crossed it gets sorted out.
Wet weather missing isn't a bug. It's a design choice.
I'm wondering if this wasn't a "metrics" decision.
You might argue the same for ultrawide replays.
F1 24 available in 2 days. They really do not care about their product.
