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Re: AI qualifying train in the last 2 minutes

@matty0blobber No its not like it is during actual Q3. However generally all F1 drivers in Q3 will all going out in last few minutes and will generally put in their fastest lap. Occasionally someone will bin it.

The devs have coded the Ai to do the same. However with Ai it would have to be scripted with A lot of uniformity. So they will all go out and start their final push lap with a set distance between eachother: if they didn’t and the Ai went out randomly in the last few minutes. It would most likely end up with them getting in the each other’s way resulting in Top ten being all over place every race. For instance a Haas makes into Q3 and goes out on his lap followed by a Red Bull. As Ai isn’t perfect you’ll end up with Red bull Qualifying in 10th because it got stuck behind a Haas. Then everyone would then complain 1st - 10th in Q3 is unrealistic

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  • matty0blobber's avatar
    matty0blobber
    New Ace
    3 years ago

    @ScarDuck14Well yeh but i don't understand why a few cars don't drive out starting around the 3/4 min mark instead of them all waiting until theres only 2 minutes left within seconds of eachother.
    But you get what i'm on about right? seeing them setting times in a uniform train just kills the realism for me.

  • Pekish79's avatar
    Pekish79
    3 years ago

    More realistic this way than seeing the top 5 driver not qualified for q3 because of traffic 

    how often does it happen in real and this is the easiest way to code it 

    I would hate to see all good driver get traffic 50% of the time because is more realistic the way they came out the pit 

  • ScarDuck14's avatar
    ScarDuck14
    Legend
    3 years ago
    @matty0blobber It’s probably more straightforward to code it as it is. I’m sure the devs would like to make it feel more realistic and balanced but they don’t get the time and resources to get everything in the game how they and we would love see and experience. Only have to look at the amount of bugs every game has at launch.
  • matty0blobber's avatar
    matty0blobber
    New Ace
    3 years ago

    @ScarDuck14
    Yeah maybe but they seem to get the AI to behave okay on their opening Q flying laps or even formation laps in a race, I don't see why they couldn't figure this out too.
    Qualifying is important in F1 so it should be represented well in game especially for street circuits like Monaco, so it needs to be polished like the race itself imo.
    Not having time to make qualifying realistic in a F1 game feels wrong thats all.

    The next time you guys do a qualifying session just watch the AI on the track map when they post their last time and you'll see what i'm on about, seeing it for 1000th time gets a bit much and feels silly for whats meant to be a sim.

  • ScarDuck14's avatar
    ScarDuck14
    Legend
    3 years ago
    @matty0blobber I only do one shot. I prefer the jeopardy of getting just one lap. More satisfying to me if I get pole. As slightly messing up costs half dozen or more palaces
  • Pekish79's avatar
    Pekish79
    3 years ago

    I am pretty sure everybody notices it is 100% obvious

    I admit I don't think there are many players who play like us - fully qualif. -

    I would say only 10% (I am saying random stuff, but I suspect so) play full or even single day qualif.

    they usually do 1 lap (or skip it)

    But out of the 10% that I am sure everybody noticed it because it is impossible not to, and still, you seem to be the only one complaining about it.

    don't get me wrong, the more realistic, the better, but I doubt it is an easy fix that would take a lot of coding and behavior modeling for AI for it to happen. For 1 person complaining about it, I don't think it is going to happen.

    Don't get me wrong, If they remove 1 lap qualify and 1 session only qualifies, and all people "have to" play full realistic qualification, I would say the problem would be seen by everybody, and there would probably be more reason to try to fix it. It's just a matter of worth: time invested to fix it, money spent for those devs, and real improvement for % of people in the game.

    Games are business. They are not our dream come true usually/unfortunately ☹️

    Honestly, I am supporting you; I totally agree it is weird and unrealistic, but I would wish they use every second of their time to actually better/deeper "myteam" than fix qualifications. Devs' time is limited.

  • matty0blobber's avatar
    matty0blobber
    New Ace
    3 years ago

    @pekish79
    I'm not demanding they fix it now just for me mate haha, I purely asked if anyone else here is aware of it and if they think it is silly too regardless of their opinion on coding.
    I'm aware there are more important things to fix hence why I put it in the discussion section and not the bug section.
    Christ I know FFB and many other things need sorting before this but I wasn't asking for that was I.

    All I do is speed up time to avoid seeing it but if i need to put in a late lap i'm forced to drive behind a slow moving train of AI and it shouldn't be that way.

  • Pekish79's avatar
    Pekish79
    3 years ago

    Yeah, I just speed up too toward the end. But I never felt it was a big problem as long as the big name still came in the higher position. I would hate to see Verstappen 11th or other strange happening because of some weird condition on the pit they couldn't model well. And if they don't code it right It would kind of happen often probably not once every 20 races

  • matty0blobber's avatar
    matty0blobber
    New Ace
    3 years ago
    @pekish79 But from a my team story standpoint I wouldn't mind one of the top 6/8 finishing low every now and then for some drama otherwise it gets boring.
  • Pekish79's avatar
    Pekish79
    3 years ago

    I am torn about it. it would be nice, but I fear if they code something like that, it would happen too often and make it weird 

    maybe an option to allow it or not in the setup like "Heavy possible traffic on/off" ahahah (just to make it even harder for them to code they have to code it twice)

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