Yesterday I raced in Baku (coop season with Ferrari) and noticed that Baku was really horrible to drive in F1 23. I was really shocked how bad the grip was. Before I bought F1 23 we played F1 21 for severeal seasons and there we didn't have this problem. Grip was fine. In F1 19 I remember also bad grip conditions in Baku. It is sooo difficult to find the right breaking point and it seems there is almost no breaking effect. It remembered me on F1 19. Besides the Problems mentioned in this thread https://answers.ea.com/t5/General-Discussion/Traction-or-lack-of-with-controller-in-slow-speed-corners/m-p/12809254#M9017 we were able to compete in Bahrain and Australia with P3 and P4 on Difficulty 96, but we were nowhere in Baku. It was so frustrating. Have you made the same expierences? Have you noticed other tracks which have similiar bad grip conditions on track? Especially for Pad users these tracks are a Fun-Killer it seems.

Maybe I should make something clear. I am the original poster and I asked for expierences from other players for the issue I descriped. The issue is that Baku has bad grip from the track combined with an unbalanced high AI Speed/Grip. Yes it is realistic that street surface has worse grip conditions, here I agree!But I feel it is a bit too hard in this game. And I think that the AI is overpowered because we as a player cannot drive as a same level as the AI does with its grip.That are my expierences. So what are yours? It seems the most have the same expierences, no matter of wheel or pad. And I asked if there are other tracks where you as a gamer expierenced this issue. Maybe I should tell you, that I am a fanatec wheel user since years and I have felt this bad grip conditions too. Yes, I managed the race a lot better then my friend with his pad, but my Pace was in the back of the midfield in this race, while I was able to compete on the Top 5 for the first 3 Races. on 96 Ai Level. So Baku was a very bad surprise. I didn't asked for discussion which other game I could play nor who is the better driver, pad user or wheel. I just want to talk about the grip conditions combined with AI driving level and if you have made same expierences (on other tracks) and maybe how you solved this problem. I don't really like to adjust the AI level. My aim is to keep the level for one season. Because of the development bug I reduce the level after the season.

That elitist attitude isn't helpful. Everybody has their own reasons for playing with their respective game peripheral and with that they have their own experiences in relation to the each game mechanic. To suggest that others should go and play another game because the only true way to play a game is with a wheel, a game that has been made to be accessible to whoever and whatever type of controller they want to use, is absurd.@thiago_ssj If you have nothing to offer other than an elitist flex or "play something else because I'm perfect at the game", don't comment and belittle another users request for an explanation of something. If you want to help, please offer something that benefits the community, it's hard enough as it is trying to keep positive 👍

@TotosHeadphones wrote:Issue was experienced by others, however his high almighty decided that because it's bit not an issue for you, nobody else deserves to play the game (a game they bought with their own money) and they should play a game more suited to their peripheral because it's the only real way to play.This is the most glaring issue for me. I dislike throwing this around, but Thiago's point on that is objectively wrong.Games like ACC and iRacing are vocal about not being suited for pad players. You can hear that from Aris himself, and there's literally an entry in iRacing's support data base suggesting you getting yourself a wheel no matter how cheap to enjoy their service.F1 is the complete opposite. It not only markets itself for pad users, the devs actually go out of their way to make room for wheel and pad players to coexist in the same lobbies.It makes absolutely no sense to tell somebody off for playing with a controller.If anything, if one's really looking for a game focused on wheel hardware, they're the ones playing the wrong gameIt's baffling, honestly. This is a pizza shop, friend.We serve pizza here, not foie de gras.

@DonBlanko Sorry fella Elitists tend to trigger me 😔

@thiago_ssjHe's agreeing with you on the reasons you laid out, it is you that's failing to see his point - how those particularities of a street circuit + Baku's layout with heavy braking events makes it even harder to deal with when playing with a controller.Anyway you must be new here. Wish you really meant it as a joke to suggest more "arcadish games" for him: it's actually funny that a gamer would recommend the simpler driving experience of arcade titles for someone that has held a real life track record at Brands Hatch 🤣

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thiago_ssj
New Adventurer
2 years ago
hahahahahahahaha oh yeah, so experienced driver moaning about grip on street asphalt and "driving" on pad, sure
maybe you can try gran turismo 7, need for speed or forza motorsport, i think will satisfy more your experiences
sorry but a good racing game need a wheel
but like i mention before, you have options to satisfy what your need on pad, but don´t will be a authentic experience
and about difficulty, sorry but no problems to me
ScarDuck14
Legend
2 years ago
@thiago_ssj Where was I moaning. I said it’s stupid hard on pad. How is that moaning?

This game is a simcade not a simulator. But you are right it’s a game and that’s why I use a pad. I use a wheel for real track driving 👍
thiago_ssj
New Adventurer
2 years ago
sorry but this year this game are more realistic, you need a wheel to him, i recommended games more adequate to your pad
ScarDuck14
Legend
2 years ago
@thiago_ssj I take it you did not see the deep dive videos before launch about the improvements made to pad for pad users. Game is much easier on pad than last year. Certain tracks are just harder due to new track physics, I’ve even seen videos of E-Sporters that use high end equipment admit this year Baku is harder. So stop with the Elitist nonsense please
thiago_ssj
New Adventurer
2 years ago
the game its not easily on pad because have improvements on pad, and yes improved grip on circuits asphalt that´s maked the game easily to all, on f1 22 the grip are a shame even on circuits with ideal conditions, now its perfectly fitting
and sorry again, but no problems on baku here
mariohomoh
Hero (Retired)
2 years ago
@thiago_ssj Are you in the simracing scene for real? On rFactor 2, ACC, iRacing etc? Hang around on those communities?

Being honest here, reading your messages suggest that you play mostly F1 and are kind of detuned to what all these three genres of racing games (simracing, simcade and arcade) offer.

F1 is competent in a ton of aspects and is up there in the top of the simcade pile. But is not by any means realistic. And it is not only clear, but quite literal from the devs and publishers that the franchise aims to cater to wheel and pad users alike.
If you're looking for a title that focus on proper wheel experience, you are the one playing the wrong game here, pal.

If you're content with the "realism" of driving with a wheel in F1 23, you're in for a treat when you get to experience a real sim. Can you get ahold of ACC? Don't know what platform you're on, but as long as you're not in a last gen console you can get ACC – iRacing, rF2, Automobilista 2 etc are all PC exclusive.
The FFB and physics you get from F1 is are not even in the same ballpark.

Again, F1 deserves all the accolades for providing the feeling of driving openwheelers. Even more so for being successful at accommodating wheel and pad users alike.
But you suggesting that people struggling on Baku to be as competent as they are on other tracks with a pad should be playing other titles is ludicrous. If you're all in for wheel driving, you're not the target audience of this franchise and should be looking to expand your horizons on what realistic FFB and physics really are.

It's like ordering pizza on a Italian venue in the neighborhood and thinking you're splurging in high European cuisine.
They serve pizza, mate.

Pizza.
ScarDuck14
Legend
2 years ago
@mariohomoh I love the new Pizza place that’s just opened up right near me. But it’s far from authentic Italian Pizza… Now that’s banging 😂
TotosHeadphones
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
That elitist attitude isn't helpful. Everybody has their own reasons for playing with their respective game peripheral and with that they have their own experiences in relation to the each game mechanic. To suggest that others should go and play another game because the only true way to play a game is with a wheel, a game that has been made to be accessible to whoever and whatever type of controller they want to use, is absurd.
@thiago_ssj If you have nothing to offer other than an elitist flex or "play something else because I'm perfect at the game", don't comment and belittle another users request for an explanation of something. If you want to help, please offer something that benefits the community, it's hard enough as it is trying to keep positive 👍
ScarDuck14
Legend
2 years ago
@TotosHeadphones Wow you’ve dropped this 🎤 with a little off this 💣

Can’t say I’m surprised 👍
thiago_ssj
New Adventurer
2 years ago
@mariohomohno, i´m already play automobilista 2 and assetto corsa and assetto corsa competizione, honestly, without assists f1 23 don´t give a so much difference between these games, finally you can apply the same driving techniques and will work, automobilista 2 are improved just now because new 1.5 update, but before its similar, but sure, if you play without assists too, i think you can´t

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