Yeah this is basically to still say that tyre wear is not only unrealistic but terrible. Wear and grip loss should be linear, not a switch when it goes up to 25%; losing so much grip for no reason will never make sense and makes the game experience terrible. And no, it's not about getting better, it is about not ruining a handling model with a terrible tyre wear model which makes more than half of the race stints barely enjoyable because of losing more than half the grip you have pretty much.This game was promising with the handling, but this ruins overall playing experience. I hope someone at EA/Codemasters notices it and tries to fix it because it is really stupid and terrible. More people should be complaining instead of shutting up and saying "get better", I don't get how anyone can like this crappy wear model.

The AI not being subjected to the same tyre model as us players is indeed an issue. Plus, there's no guarantee it will take some tweaking in the near future to make it more approachable. But about how realistic the behavior is...Every racing tyre has a drop off point, usually called the cliff. It is a very distinct point wherein your laptimes take a significant hit, even if you were to always keep your workrate stable.Say you're so consistent and precise that you can keep demanding the same level of work from your tyres. Your lap times will gradually increase as you squeeze the life out of that rubber, then you hit the cliff and those laptimes shoot upwards, increasing drastically and keeping on increasing from then on.That's due to how the tyres behave. They're elastic, and grip comes from how they deform and how they twist. They're always on a cycle of heating up and cooling off, heating up and cooling off.As the tyre thread runs thin, and the rubber goes over a significant number of cycles, the rubber simply cooks. This transform their properties and they cannot work as before.Again, not saying the game is spot on, and that F1 tyres have their cliff at around 20% or so. But then, what are those percentages anyway?Rhetorical question, obviously. They're simplifying and gamefying what would look very differently on a race engineer screen in the pitwall. There's no "Lewis, your front left has hit 18% wear". They're monitoring temps and performance (slip angles, slip ratios and behavior), and constantly adjusting their marks a plethora of factors like track and air temperature evolve. But the behavior? The cliff? That's realistic. And it should not be changed, just tweaked.

@hotmeils I do not agree with you guys. Tyre wear is very good and closer to reality than it was in previous years, don't take my words for granted, google it and see what real F1 drivers have to say about the grip at certain tyre wear, 20-25%...

exactly, finally we had a realistic tyre wear, nothing to change here

I like how the tires work now, and the sudden loss of performance makes three or even four stops sometimes reasonable that is pretty cool. (for those who play 100% race like me)I agree it feels like it affects AI less, BUT especially in MyTeam, you have to understand your car is a brick first year, and you have no upgrade for saving tire performance.But if it is true that AI doesn't get the exact tire effect, it should be fixed. I have no data or knowledge that it is true. As I primarily drive bricks in MyTeam and tires improve significantly with upgrades, I am never sure if my car is at fault or AI is cheating. (my car does get much better at seasons 2-3 with updates)Plus, if I look at the setup on site for the car, I notice they only lowered tired PSI but don't put much effort into modifying them for better tire performance people only worry about the best lap in general, pushing setup to the extreme and than wondering why tire won't last long.I am not an expert or a pro. I mostly play solo, so I am not familiar with all the problems of tires in multiplayer, but so far, I like how they behave in MyTeam.

@hotmeils My problem isn’t with the tire wear itself but it’s the fact it doesn’t seem affect the AI cars.

Tyre wear still sucks and is not getting fixed

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ScarDuck14
Legend
3 years ago
@Nylink Last year a lot of YouTubers who post Myteam and Co-op videos disabled Carcass. Not sure about this year but I assume they still do and they are all using wheels.

No point handicapping yourself against the Ai.
Pekish79
3 years ago
That type of "extra" difficulty work in E-sport, and when competition is monitored between human, it should be as default on off; in my opinion, people should want to put it on only in specific circumstance unless they make the AI smart enough to be able to account for it as well.
I mean, it's cool if you are e e-sporter and like to train and get used to dealing with that challenge, but it makes no sense in any challenge that relate to some sort of AI (so yeah, I only play offline and I keep it off 100% of the time disable carcass make things work better in general)
Meza994
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@pekish79 It should be always on and at the very least for next years game Codemasters should make the AI have normal tyre heating, same as player (slightly modded if AI turning induces too much/too little heat) but its very easy with the more realistic - subtle grip change approach of tyre temps to make the AI work on it, its the same as tyre wear and the AI can cope with that very well..

Im gonna make a big suggestion in a while - when i got some time - which includes this and ways of fairly easily making it work but track temps, air temps and tyre temps are one of the biggest reasons for differing performances by teams and just an essential part of the F1 experience

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