it seems like every single player mode seems to have a big bug involved in them besides gp mode and im just getting more and more annoyed by it. it has come to a point where pretty much every time i play i come across a game breaking bug which sometimes isn't even reported yet. i'm having trouble constantly with tt times not saving. community grand prix not being scored at all. f1 world goals being locked and today scenario mode seems to not be saving my score as well. this has meant the only thing i enjoy doing are league races which are impossible if you feel like it while i don't know what is causing these issues or how to solve them. does anyone have recommendations for me or possibly the impossible which is a solutions to one/all of my problems?

I don't think an annual release is good for games (obviously, it is good for profit), but we would have a better game if they would re-make the core every 3/4 years with a light update each year for car performance and a few things! People still play F121 or F120. They could have improved over that base each year instead of coming up with a new game every year. (The graphic kind of reaches a level that won't improve tooooo much anyway, not like it was 2014 or 2016)As you said, it's a lot of work to deal with yearly releases; the problem is that if you see the profit. - F1 2020 revenue 36.4M- F1 2021 revenue 41.8M- F1 2022 revenue 28.8MHow can you justify skipping one year of revenue just to make a better game? If all you need to do is copy 70% of the previous version and work on the remaining 30% and get that much money, obviously, the result tends to be more and more buggy because we all know how hard it is to re-use code without messing up something here and there.My only advice (but it won't work, obviously) is to make a subscription game yearly @50/60 without the rush to publish a new game every year but planning a progressive update. Obviously, there is the risk of devs sitting on it and doing very little, but I personally tend to buy it every year, and if it was a subscription, I think they could plan the future progression of the game much better if they really love F1gp.And they should have a department of the devs just to study what can be sold as fluff in the shop as it is now, which is awful, but it doesn't have to be so bad (if the game stays the same for a long period of time!). Honestly, this game deserves a more interesting shop, better livery, better advertisement, and maybe better design of car parts (that doesn't influence performance, just graphics). I think they should rethink the business around the F1gp series, and maybe they will with the new engine and stuff coming out in the next couple of years now that they somehow have a decent handling system.

@movesmoreair wrote:Take it easy Lee Mather.The fact that year after year issues persist and there is never an appetite to fix. The fact the game is aimed at things like "pit coins" shows you that this game doesnt focus on the fundamentals. If the truth hurts your feelings, perhaps step away from the PC and go outside and get some fresh air.Not sure what you're aiming at with the Lee Mather reference or "if the truth hurts your feelings..." part.The franchise is not in a good spot. The sales figures suggest a decreasing popularity, and hanging around on the community looks like Codies is also losing count on the veteran, returning players cohort. Some of the issues are flat out inadmissible, lack the ongoing lack of or inconsistent support for many Logitech and Thrustmaster products and features. Plus current state of neglect of My Team and Career modes.That said, I think even when we're indignant and deep in dissatisfaction it's better to put up an effort into being accurate. If in your "fundamentals" you include basic gameplay like handling and physics, the difference between F1 23 and any previous title is quite stark. Also Losail and Vegas being present on release day."Pit Coins" and other microtransaction shenanigans do take a significant portion of the marketing push for the franchise, but for once we actually got an entry where the reworked fundamentals actually show.To me that's not enough though, mind you. I still don't feel like recommending buying F1 23 at full price to anyone who's gotten F1 2021 or F1 22 until they properly fix the more egregious FFB issues. It just happens that, despite all that, Codies can't be accused of skipping on the fundamentals with F1 23.

Take it easy Lee Mather.The fact that year after year issues persist and there is never an appetite to fix. The fact the game is aimed at things like "pit coins" shows you that this game doesnt focus on the fundamentals. If the truth hurts your feelings, perhaps step away from the PC and go outside and get some fresh air.The poor decisions come from those at top even if the employees are just doing their job its simply poor. Fortunately the declining sales are not coming home to tell them the truth.

I would personally like all annual sports games to be in 2 year cycles with the off year where they just update rosters etc as dlc for a price of course. It’s not going to happen but it’s part of the reason sports games in general don’t advance that much and are more or less a copy and paste with some minor bells and whistles that are sold as exciting new features.For this game, I do love the handling and I have been lucky that I haven’t experienced any game breaking bugs yet (knock on wood). I only play single player and offline. I have only had the issue of a safety immediately being deployed after a red flag restart and minor audio problems like the wrong name of driver of the day. Hopefully they fix the game breaking bugs but with lots of them being the same as in 21 and 22, I don’t know if that will happen until they go to next gen only with a new engine.

EA has been evolving a general framework model to hang their sports titles on. I’ve been recently been playing PGA tour along with F1 23. This year’s big addition, in line with their model, was the F1 world set of features and its structured very similar to PGA tour’s modes. These “worlds” are there to generate continuing gameplay, which generate user data and purchases, and heavily depend on backend infrastructure and connectivity. The goal they seem to have is to offer a range of experiences and entertainments, from quick “snacks” to full up “meals” so a wide range of gamers can play. They favor a grind model to acquire “skills” so players can feel they are progressing and competing by earning enhancements for the avatar or car or whatever. But they do not do as well at rewarding real skill development versus acquired enhancements so the goals are skewed towards winning to obtain upgrades, not just for better competition. I’d like to see rewards/progress tuned more to recognizing improving at higher difficulties/fewer aids vs just winning on easier settings. This framework is complex and soaks up a lot of dev resources, in competiton for resources for the core gameplay. This is very evident in the F1 23, where all the new stuff is in F1 World, and the core gameplay/simulation has been mostly unchanged for a number of years, and just carried over along with bugs that have persisted despite user identification. I’m guessing F1 World was at least 50% or more of the dev budget. So now lots of new bugs along with the old ones. I play these to get some taste of the real world experience from both these sports. I appreciate the effort put into the handling and new tracks, and have found some of the F1 world stuff fun (and tedious as well) but QA continues to be lacking - the list of major fails like wheel support - ouch. Clearly EA has been overly ambitious with both features and schedules and have only applied limited resources. Reputation and sales have suffered. A better code & QA management system is needed to track and fix all these bugs - its the same story in PGA tour. Unfortunately not as much of what we want will be likely be fixed for F1 23 soon if at all. And by the time they get some of it prioritized and done, peak sales have passed and the negatives get hyped. EA needs to do a lot more with their overall dev strategies to get passionate fans back on side for all their titles, not just rely on gamefication alone to gen sales. I hope they can get the F1 series back on track but there’s a lot to do for a seasonal title and they need to get better processes in place asap.

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P4st3l1ak
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
No idea what Gacha Nox is and i am not going to google it.
I have BG3 and freshly also WRC which is a nice experience 😉
But I agree with @ScarDuck14 , we bought the game to play F1, not anything else.
TotosHeadphones
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@P4st3l1ak When a bot account tells you to play a Gacha game instead of a multimillion pound developed game, you know some things wrong...
ScarDuck14
Legend
2 years ago
@TotosHeadphones Explains why I thought it such odd post. 😂

Weirdly I can tell a ChatGPT post. Think it’s cause bots/human trolls tend to post the same rubbish
IanM282
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
Until they stop with the copy and paste code that contains all of the repeated bugs year after year it’s not going to improve.
I am absolutely flabbergasted why they can’t release each new game without the same copy and paste bugs.
It’s an absolute joke!
ScarDuck14
Legend
2 years ago
@IanM282 Tbh I think shoehorning F1 world into the game is the main reason for bugs being everywhere. Wouldn’t surprise me if code for F1 world has cause alsorts off conflict with other game modes
IanM282
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@ScarDuck14 Agreed mate and to add I’ve never even once looked at it. A complete and utter waste of time. They really need to start listening to the community more and implement the ideas.

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