Hi everyone,our newest patch v1.6 just released yesterday that included some further changes to the handling.Most notable: Rebalanced the Medium Traction Control setting When driving over kerbs, cars will now be more unsettled, with sausage kerbs in particular having a greater impact on vehicle stability Having a very high amount of Engine Braking is now less likely to cause the player to lock up their brakes AI are now less likely to lock up when using a low amount of pressure on their brakes Tyre pressure adjustments will now have more of an effect on tyre grip and heat You can find the full list of changes in the patch notes here:https://answers.ea.com/t5/Updates-News/F1-24-PATCH-NOTES-V1-6/m-p/13845918#M8Please use this megathread to share your thoughts and additional feedback after the recent patch but keep it handling related or use our Patch 1.6 Discussion Thread. We appreciate your input, and thank you for all your passion! Happy racing!

In my opinion, it is a lot better. However, there are a few fundamental issues as far as I can see.The grip at low to medium load is obviously too high, which I’m sure you already know. The slip angle peak is way too high, and lowering it would help reduce tyre friction in corners, which is currently causing too much induced drag and slowing the car down unrealistically.The camber and toe adjustments are, like every year, somewhat useless, especially the camber. Maximum negative camber is the best tuning option regardless of the track or situation. Toe was better before this patch; I sometimes used some rear toe, but now that the actual physical value isn't zero anymore, there's no real point.The engine brake has become even less useful since this patch, as its strength has been reduced. Therefore, 100% engine braking is the only real option if you want to be as fast as possible.It's a pity that the third springs can't be tuned individually; I suspect they are tied to the normal spring settings. I'm not sure about this, but the fact is that they can't be adjusted individually via the garage screen.Tyre temperature and pressure are still not balanced well enough. In most cases, maximum tyre pressure is probably the best bet, especially in race trim. The penalty for being below or above the ideal temperature is not severe enough. This makes the new dynamic tyre temperatures and wear too easy to manage. Overall, it hasn't really changed anything; it is still a matter of pushing as much as you can for the entire race, with no managing required.The tyre wear is not aggressive enough. It is too easy to recover ERS energy. The slipstream is still too strong, while dirty air is not strong enough.The yellow anti-cut pieces, called "sausage curbs," are non-existent, as if the collision is damped or off. This is a pity because the bottoming out on straights and cornering is really nice and realistic.Overall, there are improvements and drawbacks compared to '23. Your answer lies somewhere between the two titles.

I also have the feeling that nothing has changed. Or at least not in as big way as it's been hyped. The handling model is much better than what it was at the release, but it's still horrible. You can slide as much as you want, there will be no consequences after that. You're actually faster when you drive like a *, and yenk the car all around the track. From any view, it looks ridiculous. It looks like a stupid idea. You have a ridiculous amount of traction everywhere. I just can't understand the reason why? But for real, who thought that it will be a good idea? Did somebody tried it out before release? The ERS system is unrealistic. I almost can use full of my ERS, and i can recharge it in the same lap. And yeah, i know, we, the community asked for the multi functional ERS, but not in that form. Hell no. The curbs? They act strangely. In the fast corners, if you touch the inner curb, it can spin your car. Maybe that's okay, but what's the matter with all the big curbs, like sasuge curb, etc? You can jump all over them. They just there, but that's all. No reason to exist.You know what, guys? I've been buying your games since 2011. I'm a hardcore fan, i have been with you ever since. But the F1 24 is like a Need For Speed Game. It just doesn't feel realistic at all. It's just not! By having bunch of surrealistic stuffs, it's unenjoyable. Sometimtes i feel like you made the game for controller players. But i don't know why. You should listen to all the constructive cricism. We are not against you... we are with you.

@DavidGG53Great analysis! Nothing to add to the first 2 paragraphs which i feel like are the biggest problems with the handling itself.Engine braking was changed afaik because people had locking up at 100% which shouldnt have been changed, its meant to find a sweet spot and if you cant handle the brakes on the most extreme settings on all tracks then thats actually a good thing isnt it?Third spring would truly be interesting especially with the whole dynamic between floor downforce, wing downforce and rake. A seperate option for tuning that in the setup would be nice for F1 25.You know how much im about tyre temps and i still think the foundation is great and finding the most realistic balance isnt so tough, but especially with increased grip dropoff above/below perfect temps it becomes a useless feature for singleplayer when the AI is unaffected which i dont understand to this day, even in 2019 they had temperature simulation which wasnt that far off, differences of 2-3° core temps are fine, sadly back then the temps they had didnt give them any less grip which was a weird decision but now they are affected by the grip for different temps but are hardcoded to perfect temps after heating up.. They should get that right and engine temps to behave equal to the player and you got a truly dynamic characteristic and variable race results if tyre and engine heating were different car to car (and an upgrade path in the chassis area in career modes).Tyre wear at high speed corners/high load wear seems a bit too low and energy recovery from the MGU-H should probably be lowered but as the AI needs it to act like they drive different cars or not do the same time every lap it cant really be nerfed much for F1 24.The potential is definitely there!

@DavidGG53 wrote:In my opinion, it is a lot better. However, there are a few fundamental issues as far as I can see.The grip at low to medium load is obviously too high, which I’m sure you already know. The slip angle peak is way too high, and lowering it would help reduce tyre friction in corners, which is currently causing too much induced drag and slowing the car down unrealistically.The camber and toe adjustments are, like every year, somewhat useless, especially the camber. Maximum negative camber is the best tuning option regardless of the track or situation. Toe was better before this patch; I sometimes used some rear toe, but now that the actual physical value isn't zero anymore, there's no real point.The engine brake has become even less useful since this patch, as its strength has been reduced. Therefore, 100% engine braking is the only real option if you want to be as fast as possible.It's a pity that the third springs can't be tuned individually; I suspect they are tied to the normal spring settings. I'm not sure about this, but the fact is that they can't be adjusted individually via the garage screen.Tyre temperature and pressure are still not balanced well enough. In most cases, maximum tyre pressure is probably the best bet, especially in race trim. The penalty for being below or above the ideal temperature is not severe enough. This makes the new dynamic tyre temperatures and wear too easy to manage. Overall, it hasn't really changed anything; it is still a matter of pushing as much as you can for the entire race, with no managing required.The tyre wear is not aggressive enough. It is too easy to recover ERS energy. The slipstream is still too strong, while dirty air is not strong enough.The yellow anti-cut pieces, called "sausage curbs," are non-existent, as if the collision is damped or off. This is a pity because the bottoming out on straights and cornering is really nice and realistic.Overall, there are improvements and drawbacks compared to '23. Your answer lies somewhere between the two titles. Thank you for taking the time to write this great analysis. The game team is monitoring this thread, but I have highlighted your feedback as I feel it is a great constructive opinion.

I can't quite put into words why I feel this handling model after 23 is so much of a downgrade. I'm usually a top 500 time trial player (PC, Fanatec DD) so I hope it's not a skill issue.The car doesn't feel like a car. The front end to back end grip doesn't feel natural, the turn in doesn't make sense etc. It's possible to learn to drive this model fast, but it doesn't feel like driving a formula car.

F1® 24 [Megathread] Handling Feedback after patch v1.6

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GrumpsMcDumps
7 months ago
After spending a few more hours with 1.7, I can confirm that it definitely feels better on wheel and pedals than it did before, at least with my personal setups. The underlying throttle issue (lack of RPM response) is 100% still there, but I'm seeing more predictability during race starts (though starts are still tricky due to the throttle response in low gears) and corner exits. Some of the unpredictability comes back when really pushing for quali laps, but I think that's reasonable to expect.
All in all, it feels closer to where it should be for wheel and pedals. Doesn't quite feel great yet, but definitely better than launch.
mikyesposto1
7 months ago
I instead ask if it is possible to make the changes requested by the great David by September. I would like to see much less grip and all the other balances that need to be done, I really appreciated what David wrote and I hope that the team will take his feedback into consideration already now to improve the game even more. Can someone from the team give me an answer? @EA_Groguet
Meza994
7 months ago
@mikyesposto1 David didnt ask for much less grip though, in fact in some areas the grip is already too low IMO.. But its when you over do it that the grip keeps up too long, thats what David was referring to. Just reducing grip even more would lead to horrible driving experiences and not even Esports guys getting close to real laptimes around Silverstone but yes ideally they change it to what David stated!
dwin20
7 months ago
@atfmarko @GrumpsMcDumps @EA_Vendcera Per previous posts - the problem I was having with random braking was NOT software related - but hardware - specifically the pedals on my Logitech G29 wheel. Specifically there is a piece of hardware on the G29 called a potentiometer. There is one on each of the pedals (accelerator, brake, and clutch). Apparently when they get dirty you can get sudden application of the brake, the accelerator - and in fact it is random.
There is a process to clean them that requires taking apart the pedal base to access the three potentiometers. I followed the directions (from a YouTube video) and this seems to have been the culprit for me.
I have done quite a lot of laps across several tracks and using Iko Rein’s telemetry software I have not seen a recurrence of the brakes randomly coming on as I did before.
Jarnsson
6 months ago
I'm using Logitech G29, I've tried to turn the assists on and off again, but no effect, the game completely ignores the settings and always try to steer assisting me... The game is literally unplayable this way, not mentioning the unusual force load the game puts on the steering wheel because of this behavior... I turn right, then the game tries to turn my steering wheel to the right even more and more and I have to counter-steering this to the left... in a right turn, I literally have to force the steering wheel to the left to not turn onto the grass or in the wall on the inside of a turn jeez... This literally makes the game unplayable...
I can't imagine, how this problem can still exist since launch after multiple patches.
Anyone have any fresh info about this case? I wonder if EA even knows about this issue or not...

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