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@TheRagebeard I didn't overlook it. Just couldn't shake the impression that it is disappointingly disingenuous? Asking what one expects from a "all-new..." marketing bullet point just after we've all been presented with what seems to be the very same fundamentally flawed experience but with a fresh coat of paint?
Even more so when there's a second plain answer to that, given the direction the discussion has taken. I expect an experience that does not orbit around a broken perk system when I'm told there's an "all new" career mode coming.
A few more low hanging fruits. Consistent AI throughout the weekend. Proper customization tooling. A career progression that isn't a directionless sandbox. Functional driver academies. Regulation changes beyond a silly reset of perks, with a fitting long term R&D to account for new chassis. Meaningful FP programmes impacting performance - a "quali pace" program that isn't broken for once would be nice. Race strategy beyond the selection of tyres. A functional race engineer. I want to build my way up to understanding the car operational window for the weekend.
The secret meetings and contracts look like a fine little addition, but it's hard to look forward to it and not expect it to be unbalanced just like facility bonuses have been.
See this foolishness here?
These are mine. Because I care. Specially when I felt that my money, time and effort were getting their worth in return.
I stepped over your question for the reasons above. Sounded a tad too disingenuous. If that wasn't your intention, I apologize.
But then you drop things like "why do all you old retired champions have to be negative 24/7 lol" and "I want to kudo your post for congratulating Cpayne but I can't because the rest of it is meh"?
Don't take it as I being flippant or goading. I'm saying this as I see it and I mean no quarrel , honestly: people like me, these "old retired champions", and other long time members of Codies' community are not here for likes, "XP" or to rain on anyone's parade. Heh, we're most definitely not here to antagonize you. We're here because we care for F1 and for these games 🫶
@mariohomoh I’ve never doubted your love for F1 or these games. What annoys me is your constant negativity and cynicism.
The reason I asked my question was because you’re not the one programming the game. It’s easy to sit back and say they should add this or that or make it like this, but you don’t know what type of time or budget constraints the devs were under, maybe this was the best they could do? If you think you can do better feel free to apply for a job. I’m sure they would love to have someone with your analytical skills and attention to detail on the team.
To be clear, I’m not trying to defend EA, I’m defending the Dev’s who get put in a crappy situation of having to put out annual games without receiving proper support or funding.
I get why [Edit - EA_Barry], I just don’t feel like being dragged down with you.
- Cpayne322 years agoHero+
let’s calm down please. While you both have valid points with regards to the game there is no need for the bickering
- mariohomoh2 years agoHero (Retired)
@TheRagebeard wrote:I get why your a broken cynical man, I just don’t feel like being dragged down with you.
The old "get a job and do better" platitude? I should have gone with my instinct then and ignored the question, but even now I'm surprised this is the level of the response you had been cooking.
We've explained why the "all new career mode" marketing doesn't fly. I don't see you delving into the subject with a comparable level of competence.
You even alluded elsewhere that the 3rd season is where the "average player" gets a broken car from R&D? When I originally threw the "3rd season" number around I was being hyperbolic, and the average player doesn't get the issue of a maxed out car by then.
Regarding the quoted part specifically, your stay here would be more productive and healthy if you were to drop this notion that other users are here to entertain or to drag you down.
If you don't think the criticism is fair, the forums have channels to escalate the matter - as you should be acquainted with by now. Trying to smother forum activity down because they're dragging you down is unreasonable and unfitting.
And no need to white knight devs here, or evoke the challenges of videogame development under EA. We've been doing that since before the acquisition when the community would heat up with unreasonable frustration. Keyword here being "unreasonable", which hasn't been the case on this thread.
Edit: @Nuvolarix you even got the icons for the tyre compounds! Haha neat 💚🤍♥️
My spreadsheets always border on the untastefully colorful side of the spectrum. Yours are beautiful 🫶
- Nuvolarix2 years agoSeasoned Ace
@mariohomoh 🤷♂️😬😂😂😂
- ajobling19832 years agoRising Ace
@TheRagebeard wrote:To be clear, I’m not trying to defend EA, I’m defending the Dev’s who get put in a crappy situation of having to put out annual games without receiving proper support or funding.
I get why your a broken cynical man, I just don’t feel like being dragged down with you.
Wow! Who is this guy? If you were around in the codies forum days you would know we have been feeling the pain for years. With it going downhill year after year, just trying to paint over the cracks.
EA taking over has made it worse unfortunately.
us old timers know better than to buy into their marketing gimmick and youtube fanboys promoting the next copy and paste.
i honestly dont see any reason to buy this installation over something like F1 2020. Especially if the rumors about no modding on PC are to be true.
- TheRagebeard2 years agoHero+
@ajobling1983 I may not have been on the forums, but I've been playing CodeMaster's F1 games since 2010, so I'm well acquainted with the ups and downs of the franchise. Apparently, my optimism seems to get under a lot of people's skin, but I just don't see the point of giving up on a game a month before it even releases.
Will F1 24 be everything we ever wanted? Probably not, but I do believe it will be better than F1 23. If you want to take a pass and stick to F1 2020, that's your choice and your more than welcome to do so. It also sounds like you'll have plenty of company from other people doing the same.
- ScarDuck142 years agoLegend
@ajobling1983Welcome back dude ❤️
@TheRagebeard Not your optimism in the slightest
- Meza9942 years agoSeasoned Ace@ajobling1983 For me there are actually plenty of advantages IF 24 works as its promoted over 2020.. However no modding would suck hard - i doubt that though, probably needs another update to the EGO archiver, still same engine, i really cant imagine they changed it so much so that it will remain impossible..
But way better feeling on controller (at least in 23), deeper setups, much more accurate tyre temp behaviour than 2020, at least better contract system and more things im not counting now, it has its advantages for me personally IF it works properly.. Thats a lot of ifs for such a heavy price tag so its totally understandable that others might feel its not worth it! - 2 years ago
@Meza994To be fair, I’ve only interested in realistic sponsor boards, since "new game" uses sponsors from past year of F1 season. 😬
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