Hey everyone, Check out the first F1® 24 Official Gameplay Deep Dive today at 15:00 UTC!

@mariohomoh wrote:@TheRagebeard I didn't overlook it. Just couldn't shake the impression that it is disappointingly disingenuous? Asking what one expects from a "all-new..." marketing bullet point just after we've all been presented with what seems to be the very same fundamentally flawed experience but with a fresh coat of paint?Even more so when there's a second plain answer to that, given the direction the discussion has taken. I expect an experience that does not orbit around a broken perk system when I'm told there's an "all new" career mode coming.A few more low hanging fruits. Consistent AI throughout the weekend. Proper customization tooling. A career progression that isn't a directionless sandbox. Functional driver academies. Regulation changes beyond a silly reset of perks, with a fitting long term R&D to account for new chassis. Meaningful FP programmes impacting performance - a "quali pace" program that isn't broken for once would be nice. Race strategy beyond the selection of tyres. A functional race engineer. I want to build my way up to understanding the car operational window for the weekend.The secret meetings and contracts look like a fine little addition, but it's hard to look forward to it and not expect it to be unbalanced just like facility bonuses have been.See this foolishness here?These are mine. Because I care. Specially when I felt that my money, time and effort were getting their worth in return.I stepped over your question for the reasons above. Sounded a tad too disingenuous. If that wasn't your intention, I apologize.But then you drop things like "why do all you old retired champions have to be negative 24/7 lol" and "I want to kudo your post for congratulating Cpayne but I can't because the rest of it is meh"?Don't take it as I being flippant or goading. I'm saying this as I see it and I mean no quarrel , honestly: people like me, these "old retired champions", and other long time members of Codies' community are not here for likes, "XP" or to rain on anyone's parade. Heh, we're most definitely not here to antagonize you. We're here because we care for F1 and for these games 🫶@mariohomoh luckily I'm not the only crazy one around 🥳❤️❤️❤️

@Nuvolarix wrote:@mariohomoh wrote:@TheRagebeard I didn't overlook it. Just couldn't shake the impression that it is disappointingly disingenuous? Asking what one expects from a "all-new..." marketing bullet point just after we've all been presented with what seems to be the very same fundamentally flawed experience but with a fresh coat of paint?Even more so when there's a second plain answer to that, given the direction the discussion has taken. I expect an experience that does not orbit around a broken perk system when I'm told there's an "all new" career mode coming.A few more low hanging fruits. Consistent AI throughout the weekend. Proper customization tooling. A career progression that isn't a directionless sandbox. Functional driver academies. Regulation changes beyond a silly reset of perks, with a fitting long term R&D to account for new chassis. Meaningful FP programmes impacting performance - a "quali pace" program that isn't broken for once would be nice. Race strategy beyond the selection of tyres. A functional race engineer. I want to build my way up to understanding the car operational window for the weekend.The secret meetings and contracts look like a fine little addition, but it's hard to look forward to it and not expect it to be unbalanced just like facility bonuses have been.See this foolishness here?These are mine. Because I care. Specially when I felt that my money, time and effort were getting their worth in return.I stepped over your question for the reasons above. Sounded a tad too disingenuous. If that wasn't your intention, I apologize.But then you drop things like "why do all you old retired champions have to be negative 24/7 lol" and "I want to kudo your post for congratulating Cpayne but I can't because the rest of it is meh"?Don't take it as I being flippant or goading. I'm saying this as I see it and I mean no quarrel , honestly: people like me, these "old retired champions", and other long time members of Codies' community are not here for likes, "XP" or to rain on anyone's parade. Heh, we're most definitely not here to antagonize you. We're here because we care for F1 and for these games 🫶@mariohomoh luckily I'm not the only crazy one around 🥳❤️❤️❤️You guys are awesome crazy…

@NuvolarixHmm.. i hate to be this person but im not very optimistic about the career mode changes..The most promising thing seems to be the changes to the contract system..Driver ratings are just some weird way of leveling your recognition by using a metric of how you fare in the races - looks like - also still no race pace for ratings it seems🙄Recognition is just the new acclaim which is now supposed to be vital for everything you want to do, so perform well and everything will go well in time..Especially those new perks just look like a new presentation of old, the same old bonuses you get in a slightly different way but basically - play the game and you will unlock them in time unless you perform horribly wrong..Specialists seem very low depth to me, like its really just a different cover of the same old bonuses just like the "simultaneous upgrades perk" its the upgrade time reduced and possible the upgrade costs reduced? Cant currently imagine them making the PU components actually cost money as they didnt say a single word about the cost cap so money wont play a role..Rivalries? Yeah no, very loud noises for another "here you got some acclaim" unless there is far more to it then is known yet, nothing deep, nothing special besides tracking the progress between 2 drivers and getting a "recognition" reward for it.. mehNot gonna mention accolades😂And last but well last.. The mid race objectives.. Burn some fuel.. Oh dear🙄 so your target can be burning fuel/ruining your engine by overrevving.. I hope the other objectives are better..I know i sound horribly pessimistic, its just that a rework of career mode had so much potential, there were so many good suggestions, many worked out ideas from all around and yet to me it feels like a new cover for the same old basics and mechanics.. except for maybe contracts but we will see how much depth these things actually have and how much the gameplay differs from the old mechanics

@TheRagebeard Thank you very much. Glad to be part of that club

@TheRagebeard I didn't overlook it. Just couldn't shake the impression that it is disappointingly disingenuous? Asking what one expects from a "all-new..." marketing bullet point just after we've all been presented with what seems to be the very same fundamentally flawed experience but with a fresh coat of paint?Even more so when there's a second plain answer to that, given the direction the discussion has taken. I expect an experience that does not orbit around a broken perk system when I'm told there's an "all new" career mode coming.A few more low hanging fruits. Consistent AI throughout the weekend. Proper customization tooling. A career progression that isn't a directionless sandbox. Functional driver academies. Regulation changes beyond a silly reset of perks, with a fitting long term R&D to account for new chassis. Meaningful FP programmes impacting performance - a "quali pace" program that isn't broken for once would be nice. Race strategy beyond the selection of tyres. A functional race engineer. I want to build my way up to understanding the car operational window for the weekend.The secret meetings and contracts look like a fine little addition, but it's hard to look forward to it and not expect it to be unbalanced just like facility bonuses have been.See this foolishness here?These are mine. Because I care. Specially when I felt that my money, time and effort were getting their worth in return.I stepped over your question for the reasons above. Sounded a tad too disingenuous. If that wasn't your intention, I apologize.But then you drop things like "why do all you old retired champions have to be negative 24/7 lol" and "I want to kudo your post for congratulating Cpayne but I can't because the rest of it is meh"?Don't take it as I being flippant or goading. I'm saying this as I see it and I mean no quarrel , honestly: people like me, these "old retired champions", and other long time members of Codies' community are not here for likes, "XP" or to rain on anyone's parade. Heh, we're most definitely not here to antagonize you. We're here because we care for F1 and for these games 🫶

F1® 24 Official Gameplay Deep Dive

59 Replies

dwin20
Rising Hotshot
2 years ago
This looks good! When will the F1 24 UDP be available? Thanks
Nellix82
Rising Ace
2 years ago
the ideas are in line with my thoughts on the f1 game......I have a question that I'm sure you can't answer in the case of equal performance for the online lobby, is it possible to choose the wing as you also say there? and the cars themselves with performance always equal for online since they are different in shape between belly funds etc will they be equal in what? thanks the rest for personal taste they seem like good ideas to me in theory we shouldn't see setups all the same fine
Meza994
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@EA_Groguet I gotta say...

Ive seen a lot of the points presented there before somewhere😝😝

Honestly, IF done properly this could be great.. realistic DRS differences from high to low drag, more detailed suspension, generally the difference between high speed and low speed grip, finally ERS modes are avaibable again - love it but hope it doesnt get abused too much by Esports guys😅.. All this could really make the races feel more individual however there is some concern on my part..

Temperatures play a key role now, which is great, but is the AI finally equally affected as the player? I guess engine temps are still not as much a factor as it is IRL (as seen for Merc in Bahrain) but thats fine, you cant change the entire game in a year, but if the AI still has predetermined tyre temps this whole feature is kinda multiplayer only.. Like what a huge disadvantage for the player it would be to risk the tyres, having to go onto the wet parts while the AI is stuck on 65° on inters as it looked like int he deep dive🤔? Thats what im worried about..

If the temps for AI are same as for player and ideally the dirty air finally is at least 3 seconds long (after Hülkenberg claiming it gets back to the 2019 levels of dirty air) id absolutely love it😀😀
Nuvolarix
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@Meza994 totally quoted. Lots of interesting stuff but the offline game risk to be terrible if the AI behaviour at least doesn't "resemble" the player. Or force the player to deactivate realistic tire behavior settings (if the option is still available) something that I personally also avoided in F1 23 (with difficulty). If it were managed it would be awesome, let's wait and see 😉
P.S.: nice built-in telemetry too
Meza994
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@ScarDuck14 Thing is there were some clips with the tyre temps moving, but that might have just been real player footage and not AI.. really unnerving when they dont want to answer this specific question, tracks like Hungary should be a pain then with more realistic performance dropoff at overheating🙄
ScarDuck14
Legend
2 years ago
@Meza994 Can’t even get my long time close friend 🙄😂 David to comment. Obviously it’s not his thing but still he gives nothing away. Which you have to admire.

But to go along with new career the Ai really needs to be affected by temps, As it will be a critical thing for humans to manage. If Ai had set temps again and become much faster through specific sections off track where our tyres are melting, If you turn Ai difficulty down to keep up with Ai in those parts it will just make us OP through sections where temps stay within window. So to keep pace balanced with Ai I can’t see any other option other than just setting surface only

Id even settle for,if they reduce the Ai temp range so they never get too hot or cold. And leave enough room for temps to cause some variation in there performance
Meza994
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@ScarDuck14 Well the problem wont necessarily be like that, rather you cant push properly in certain parts, otherwise your tyre temps will shoot up and you will suffer less grip for the whole next lap..
Temps once they reach their normal average dont jump that much throughout a lap, but if you push hard enough they will rise till your grip goes below Strolls awareness😂

At the very least they need a limited temp development, like only 90% of what can happen to human players, but ideally you want them facing the same struggles!
Nuvolarix
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
Absolutely, otherwise it’s impossible to face AI, meaning no matter which level you choose you will be faster under some conditions and slower in other. No close match = no fun 🤷‍♂️
TheRagebeard
Hero+
2 years ago
"Temps once they reach their normal average dont jump that much throughout a lap, but if you push hard enough they will rise till your grip goes below Strolls awareness😂"
@Meza994
I didn't realize grip could have a negative coefficient 😉
Nuvolarix
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
F1 24 Deep Dive 2: Career
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vxQIKjRJm40&t=5s
While I don't think I'll abandon GP mode, Career looks interesting, I will give it a try 😉