f1 2024 PSvr2
Formula 1 2024 MUST come with PSVR2 availability. GT7 is definitely a game changer for lovers of speed and racing simulators. The Formula 1 category is by far one of the most modern sports categories...
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The second biggest topic on the main page with nearly a hundred comments now. I think its time to stop banging the drum of only 0.1% of people would use this feature and get it in the game, as people obviously want this feature. Also VR is about to have resurgence in the market with some great games about to launch so give them another reason to go out and buy that headset. I think codemasters and EA would be surprised by how popular this would be to the wider market not just the people who buy F1 games every year.
@lufc100It’s got this big because a few keep saying they want it and I and a few other keep getting sucked into replying why they won’t get it… don’t let the number off posts fool you. It’s just going round and round because those who want vr can’t grasp why they are not getting it
@lufc100 they’re not going to be able to add it into the game in the next two weeks before launch, and even if they agreed to add it as a post launch up date the implementation would be rushed and haphazard at best.
- @ScarDuck14 I don't understand why it's a debate between users, if there are some who prefer flat screen for a racing game, no problem, but those who prefer VR may wonder why EA is doing VR for PC and not for PS5 regardless of financial interests and the number of users (I remain convinced that there are more PS users than PC). Anyway we now know that PSVR2 is not for F1 2024. I repeat, with the old generation of engine it is impossible to make good VR for the PS.
@MeteoreNo no no. It’s not a debate between users. All I’ve done is explain why psvr2 won’t be added, using information from industry sources including Sony and now Lee Mather.
I’m not arguing which is better one or the other. I have no doubt psvr2 is awesome and more immersive. But majority of people are more than happy with flatscreen.Because there are billions of PCs and millions more VR headsets for pc.
Come on, guys...
EA has tons of info and insights about the gaming market and gamers preferences. Easy to presume that if this implementation was really profitable in terms of compressing it into a already tight development schedule, perhaps leading to other improvements being dropped, it would be already done.
Not to mention that developing in PCs is way easier than on consoles, actually this could be the no-go for PSVR2.
Time is expensive and maybe we need to look the bigger picture.
Why doesn’t codemaster let a extern studio port the vr mode and sell it as dlc like they did with dirt rally on ps4?
@ha6hk3w77mwjThis is just me guessing based on everything we know including Lee Mather saying it’s hard to pour resources developing something that has a niche market and that’s why there wre no plans to add PSVR2… Because it’ll cost money and they obviously don’t think they will see a return on their investment.
Same discussion as last year fella
- @ScarDuck14 Here’s the thing
“ IGN investigated the state of PSVR2 as part of a feature that painted a grim picture of Sony's VR headset, which looks abandoned at this point. Six weeks after launch, Sony announced PSVR2 had sold nearly 600,000 units. Analysts suggest it sold just over one million units in its first year.”
So let’s say 1M units sold in the first year, if Only 10% of them buy F1 that’s 100K more games sold. Less people are buying F1 every year and a Lot of people who played gt7 vr are not going to buy a flatscreen race game anymore.
So if 200K games are sold on PS than adding VR would be a 50% increase in sells (at only 10% of users, could be more)
How is a 50% increase not worth it? @ha6hk3w77mwjLook at the lack off interest after the launch…. 600k at first but only a 1m after a year. Not exactly numbers for any one to get excited about. And 10% you’re guessing. I have GT7 and a flatscreen
I admit I’m guessing but 200k games won’t get sold… it’ll be closer to 2 million. Maybe as high as 5.
@ha6hk3w77mwjSo from a source I trust. F1 22 sold around 7 million copies. Although I trust it as there is no hard data it could be wrong.
- @ScarDuck14 …and probably less than 1 million for F1 2024
@Meteorelast year took a steep drop so wouldn’t surprise me. But still I imagine north of 2 million. Same issue players have with FIFA no viable alternatives
- @ScarDuck14 Nobody cares what you have, the psvr2 numbers are also nothing more than a bloomberg estimate. Fact is a lot of psvr2 gamers play GT7 and would kill for another vr racing game (way more than 10%) and a lot of those players won’t buy any racing game if it isn’t vr supported.
Porting pcvr to psvr isn’t a multi million dollar operation and once it’s done they will get the sales every year again. @ha6hk3w77mwjBut yet they don’t add it. Neither does any new AAA game in last 6 months or next 6 months. You paid for a white elephant my friend. And no other racing game for that matter
Only reason GT7 has it. Is because it’s a Sony game. Which was used to hype up the excitement of psvr. All Marketing. And it failed.
Headset £500 GT7 £70…. It best be good to play one racing game for that price
- @ScarDuck14 Just one sentence … I advise you to live the VR experience in racing game!!
@MeteoreFor £500 nope
wont even think about vr until many more games support it. So at least 2 years
I guess F1 game sales largely depend on how the sports popularity is doing in general, rather than the quality and the amount of new features compared to the previous year's game.
2022 sold well because it came off the back of one of the most exciting F1 seasons in years. I remember trying to get tickets for Silverstone for 2022 in January that year (I'd been in 2021 too) and found out it had sold out in December. Go forward to 2024 and you can still get tickets for this year's British GP today.
Perhaps Lando Norris can take the fight to Max this season, but popularity for F1 games and F1 in general won't pick up until it becomes competitive at the top again.
And to keep it firmly on topic... PSVR2 is awesome 🙂
- @superhoops82 I have no doubt PSVR2 is awesome. If there were a lot more good games supported I would probably buy one. But I’ve looked at all current games and GT7 and maybe no man’s sky are literally the only two that appeal to me I already have them. Not brave enough to play RE Ever since the I watched the remake off dawn off the dead and they gave Zombies the ability to run aswell as hyper aggressive then World War Z took it further. Zombies seriously freak me out. So zombies in VR no chance besides it be pointless as I’d have my eyes closed shut 😂
- I’m still wondering what the goals/fees are from F1/Liberty driving EA’s target for game sales. Is this still a continued attempt to extend F1/DTS into gaming, ala NFL/FIFA and sell as many as possible to even the most casual fans, or will there be a strong enough focus on the harder core racing fan? Is eSports still a target? I think this is still at play in F1 24 based on the marketing I’ve seen so far with some claimed improvements aimed towards all groups. F1 24 sales/reviews will be an interesting indicator.As to VR, PCVR is in F1 24 because its copied and pasted from 23 along w Ego and PSVR2 won’t happen as long as the Ego engine is still being used. PC VR strikes me as pretty niche, at least in F1 series overall sales including consoles. But someone at EA/CM thinks PCVR is important enough to bring it to WRC, along w re-engining to Unreal, enough to support 4 brands, 7 total headsets (no extra effort or complexity there right? we’ll see how that goes)When F1 gets re-engined (probably for 25) so only new gen consoles are supported (and if PC VR comes along - depends on how it goes w WRC I guess) would be the soonest EA/CM might even consider PSVR2, but that would have to get decided in the next 6 months so doesn’t seem likely, unless the penetration of PSVR2 for GT7 the only RACING game (not general games) is deemed significant enough (and whether Sony will decide there is a future for VR under its current latest regime and actually support/promote it). I’d love to see it but not overly optimistic for F1 25 atmInterestingly CM did add PSVR1 support to Dirt a while back, so maybe they just really hated doing it (or Sony) and said never again
Fair love my psvr 2
@ScarDuck14 yeah horror games are a struggle for me in VR. Can play them after some drinks and with friends, but wouldn't go near one at home on my own and sober. Walkabout Mini-Golf is great. Works well for local play, passing the headset around every few holes until everyone has done a full round. Hoping for another Astrobot game though. The PSVR1 game was one of my favourites of any platform, let alone for VR. Was very clever how they used VR in a platform game.
Going back to F1 games though, I finally got round to watching that Lee Mather interview you posted (thanks for posting that). Was quite funny seeing the interviewer say that VR was one of his favourite (or favourite) features from the last game and wanted to know what they had in store for VR in F1 24. Lee looked very awkward when sheepishly saying that nothing was changing for VR. Clearly didn't want to discuss that at all!
- @superhoops82 Make no mistake I’m pretty sure the dev team would love to add support. Including Lee.
But I’m willing to bet EAs money men wouldn’t give the team the budget they would need.
In David Grecos F1 22 Q&A. He was asked what other features he’d like to add to the games. Before I he replied I was expecting him to name one or two things. His list was long and extensive. I can only conclude he hadn’t added them because he never got the resources he’d need - @superhoops82 As for psvr games. I must admit i bought Star Wars squadrons. Which I see a few posts say it was great in VR. So was alittle tempted. But as I’ve said I’m more than happy using a flat screen. Very few games that interest me. So can’t justify buying it. I’ve got enough cash in my sock drawer to buy ten of the things. But it appears as I’ve got older I’ve got tighter
@ScarDuck14 Star Wars Squadrons worked brilliantly. I didn't think they'd do a full game in VR and thought they'd just stick with the original tech demo which was unbelievable.
Although I'd highly recommend for anyone to try GT7 VR, in some ways you're possibly wiser not to get PSVR2 just yet, as you'd end up equally frustrated as the rest of us PSVR2 owners who can no longer go back to flat screen and can't play F1 in VR yet.
Do you have a wheel setup? Or just controller? Getting a wheel was a similar situation for me as I didn't want to play racing games without one after that (apart from Mario Kart type games).
When I played F1 games on flat screen, I found myself relying on the corner breaking guides too much as I didn't have the time to learn each circuit well enough without them. With VR though, I can pretty much learn a circuit within about 5 to 10 laps to get a decent enough laptop time. Mainly because you can pick out so many details a lot easier when the circuit is all around you.
I may give F123 a try as it was free on PS Plus. Luckily the team line ups are the same as this year and I've never driven Miami or Vegas, so that'll be something new.
- @superhoops82 The big benefit for using PSVR2 in racing games is you don’t have to worry about POV settings. But as I’ve said GT7 is as awesome in PSVR2. Because it was the perfect game to showcase it. And as Sony wanted to blow everyone away with how good it is. I’m willing they poured way more resources into getting perfect. Whereas other game’s publishers will give their developers the minimum and least possible time…. thus all AAA game pretty much release in a broken unfinished mess. Unfortunately cooperate greed in tech and pharma is disgusting. Only care about quarterly statements. So CEO only care about maximising short term profits to keep shareholders happy. Last EA. Conference call. All questions were pretty much from investment backs asking about in game advertising. In Game monetisation profits etc etc. one question was about a game. Obviously included as a token.
For all my working life I’ve been a professional driver. And although I love racing games. Last thing I want to do when I’m home is anything that reminds me of a wheel. So despite I average 600 hours in just this game. I have 200 hours so far in WRC. Using a steering wheel to similar to work, same for VR as it’s so similar to sitting in a car. I’m not a sim racer. Has I’ve had many near misses that would have been fatal having driven 2 million miles. Good chunk at speed. Hardcore Sim racing doesn’t excite me. I’m gamer that loves racing games. I don’t race looking for world record times or be a toxic elitest and spend my time complaining the game is broken cause someone on pad beat me in my 20k sim rig. Games for me are or were fun. It’s getting harder these days but still sweating to play a game isn’t me Good news people… Time to rejoice. You can now play on PSVR2 woo hooo
Oh you’ll need to get the game on steam. But as you were all ok with paying for it to be added in a DLC this shouldn’t be a problem
https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2024/06/psvr2s-pc-adapter-available-on-7th-august-costs-usd60
