Re: 2024 Season Grand Prix Megathread

@ScarDuck14 Lando is actually not new to let Max pass, even when he could really match him in a 2023 race, but unfortunately they are all going into that, also Leclerc, who is probably the last one to "avoid fight", is starting to do the same. But the DRS rule makes overtakes too easy I fear, or at least in the most of the track they may improve DRS zones with the purpose to aid fight, not easy overtakes.

On the other hand we have to say that only RB seems, once again, on another planet: while McLaren-Mercedes were defending quite well in Jeddah, with uncertain result (Piastri-Hamilton, and later Hamilton-Norris), Ferrari was quite similar (Leclerc passed Hamilton and Norris but with fresher tyres and not so easily), Red Bull with its aero and DRS passes too easily (look Perez-Leclerc)

So the solution is: disqualify RB for 2024 and 2025 🥳

In the 2026 with the new rules they may get back 👿

I actually like DRS. Sure it's not perfect and in some situations give too much of an advantage but overall it did make racing closer with more overtakes. 

@EA_Vendcera I tend to agree, I think if it was eliminated entirely, it would be like going back to the early 2010's with a lot of processional races. People overestimate the effect the 2022 regulation changes have had on overtaking, especially now that teams have had a few years to work out the zero side... I mean flaws from their designs, bringing the cars that don't say Red Bull or Alpine closer together.

That said you could still adjust the DRS rules, either alter the rules to allow for a smaller gap or maybe not allow the gap to run the entire width of the wing. Such rules could also be circuit specific where tracks that are notoriously hard to overtake would have a much more generous DRS than those that are known to produce more natural overtaking.

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@P4st3l1ak wrote:
@Meza994
Don't worry, soon we'll have on all-electric cars (i.e. Formula E) and then every car will sound like an RC toy 😉

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Im afraid it will go that directions too ☹️

In regards to the DRS (for the whole conversation haha) my 2 cents are that DRS as is is fine maybe even longer DRS zones on some tracks like Baku where they shortened it too far.. HOWEVER they absolutely need reduce the effectiveness so instead of 20kph gain it should rather be ~12 kph at most. Drivers can still get closer and creep up more slowly so defensive driving can be done more safely (less eratic when there isnt a speed difference of 35kph) plus it will rather give them the chance to outbreak instead of zooming past. Only giving them DRS when they are further than 1 sec ahead would have made it 100% impossible for McLarens to pass Mercs at Jeddah, you need a top speed advantage at most tracks to pass, especially with how close current gen cars are, either ~3 seconds per lap faster to overtake in corners or get a top speed advantage

@EA_Rtas In theory this should be a positive though in a sporting sense as teams should be rewarded for their efforts in creating a more powerful engine than their competitors, just like RB is being reward for creating a car that generates massive downforce with no drag during a period of aero sensitive regulations. Similarly, Mercedes was rewarded during the "Turbo-Hybrid" Era for having a better engine than everybody else. That's the risk you run with a "formula" series vs a "spec" series is that someone gets it really right and runs away with it.

In this case, at this time, it probably just makes things worse though as RB probably has the best engine and aero while Alpine might have the worst engine and aero.

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@P4st3l1ak wrote:
@EA_Rtas
well, yes but it would also show who's braver on brakes 😉
Just to look at F2, they have stock cars and you can see overtakes even in DRS trains ...

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F2 races are tyre limited too often, there's a complete lack of any strategy, either prime or reversed. Even that often trashes a sprint.

Just a heads up but it’s a very sad day for you all.  I be champion no more.  Won’t go into details as no point.   But I  made a joke about something that I shouldn’t have.  I’ll stil be here but stripped and shamed 😂

@ScarDuck14 Hmmmm. On one hand I feel bad for you as that's pretty rough. On the other hand now I have to be disappointed with you because...

A: I was hoping you could pull some strings if a Beta invite didn't come through and now you've gone and thrown your superpowers down the drain.

B: Also I now have to go scanning through all of your posts to see which one got heavily redacted to reverse engineer your crime.

Cheers

@ScarDuck14 So how are you liking the taste of freedom and Independence?

Real races may be boring…. Big absolutely love these nightlight videos and still give me something to look forward to

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XRnYJBR3XLQ

@ScarDuck14 Sorry to bring this up, but I couldn't help but notice that the thread for the "Beta registration is now open" lists Tomski_PL as being the last reply despite the fact you and I carried on for several more messages after that, including your rant about champions being free to criticize EA. I know you say that's not what got you in trouble, but it still seems interesting that they're trying to censor it or something. I smell shenanigans and EA did a poor job of covering their tracks.

@TheRagebeard  ou mean this back and forth? Sometimes threads get merged and the end result may look messy. The comments still show up to me.

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@ScarDuck14 wrote:

Just a heads up but it’s a very sad day for you all.  I be champion no more.  Won’t go into details as no point.   But I  made a joke about something that I shouldn’t have.  I’ll stil be here but stripped and shamed 😂

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If you look at it as this year's F1 season. I'm not surprised. 😜

@ScarDuck14
Sorry to hear that. But I am for freedom of speech and if someone too sensitive and takes jokes personally, it's their fault, not yours.
(unless you did something really wrong, then you need to be bent over the knee and get your backside painted red with a wooden spoon 😉 )

Thanks guys does genuinely mean a lot.