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Monzstar83
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago

Re: Voice control for radio

@e6c50f9737b2a02a wrote:

For me this is the most needed thing on the next game.

If they cant get voice commands then they NEED to think of a way forvus to communicate better with the team in race.

@e6c50f9737b2a02a I use the PS4 version of the game on PS5 for this reason precisely. For 22 and 23 (IIRC) I made a suggestion to be able to edit the 1st page of the MFD, because it looks like voice commands will not be supported on next gen for the reasons @ScarDuck14 outlines.

Another bugbear, I have is they keep missing out on easy win QOL improvements such as the above. I put together threads for the last two years where I scoured all the suggestions regularly and collated all of the easy wins I could find. I filtered out anything remotely complicated and limited to the really easy stuff (given my background in software systems and UI), that I know is not much effort or would rock the boat too much in terms of introducing new bugs. None have been implemented, and I cannot be bothered to keep doing the work putting these posts together for no gain. I’m literally given them things on a plate: https://answers.ea.com/t5/Game-Suggestions/Reprise-Low-Hanging-Fruit-Thread/m-p/12755369#M579 

As a result I have become a much more casual player; I can take it or leave it, whereas before 23 I was spending at least 3 hours a day on the games. 

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  • ScarDuck14's avatar
    ScarDuck14
    Legend
    2 years ago
    @Monzstar83 And before my forced retirement I passed on every worthwhile suggestion.( Which means all of yours) to anyone I thought may be able to put them in front of the right people. Before Groguet and Vendcera took other the boards. The CMs previously did as much as they could but they were managing other boards and not just Codemasters. I’m purely guessing but as F1 games aren’t exactly content heavy plus not having the player base anywhere close to FIFA, Madden etc. I guessing they may have initially underestimated how much attention these games required. I do know however that both the CMs we have now genuinely want to help us. They are relentless in chasing up issues.

    But I’m as frustrated as everyone. Nearly 2 years ago I was made champion. I banged on and on to Staff all the issues these games have and still continue to have. I know they took my feedback seriously as they did change staff around so we had dedicated CMs plus I guess my biggest win with help off the other champions was getting the community raised issues board added. But even so feels like it only gets updated when the CMs tell them it hasn’t been.

    Just feels like Codemasters are bored of these games. Maybe a result of being pushed into adding features like F1 world. Because let’s face it no one from the Dev team would have come up with such an idea.
  • Monzstar83's avatar
    Monzstar83
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago
    @ScarDuck14 wrote:


    Just feels like Codemasters are bored of these games. Maybe a result of being pushed into adding features like F1 world. Because let’s face it no one from the Dev team would have come up with such an idea.

    Honestly, @ScarDuck14 this is so true. It just feels like there’s no real desire to make a GREAT game.  

    I genuinely cannot comprehend why small QOL improvements that have been suggested over a number of years have not made it into the games - and there are SO MANY examples that have been consistently requested. Some of these things are so simple and would be transformational to the user experience, but they just get ignored.

    I think there are literally a few features that gets put on the roster early and then all resources are put on there at the expense of everything else. Once released, it only fixes that effort is spent on. 

    Rinse (us) & repeat $$$

  • ScarDuck14's avatar
    ScarDuck14
    Legend
    2 years ago
    @Monzstar83 I wonder if it’s a case of old staff moving on and new staff not being fully up to speed on what QOL features need attention. Obviously posting a thread asking us what’s needed before they start work on next game isn’t something they can bring themselves to do. As they will no doubt be under orders not to post anything that makes them seem like they don’t know
  • Monzstar83's avatar
    Monzstar83
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago
    @ScarDuck14 wrote:
    @Monzstar83I wonder if it’s a case of old staff moving on and new staff not being fully up to speed on what QOL features need attention. Obviously posting a thread asking us what’s needed before they start work on next game isn’t something they can bring themselves to do. As they will no doubt be under orders not to post anything that makes them seem like they don’t know

    @ScarDuck14 I thought this also which is why I collated and regularly updated maintained those low hanging fruit threads. In the hope someone would pick it up. Two years in with no reward.

    I honestly think the suggestion board is just optics. Only defects seem to get actioned. If they genuinely wanted user’s suggestions, something (no matter how small) would have been actioned by now.

  • Nuvolarix's avatar
    Nuvolarix
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    @Monzstar83 @ScarDuck14 Voice control was by far my favorite feature, offering the most immersive gaming experience, I'm still crying... 😞 today on PS5 is 120 fps VS voice control 😞 😞 😞

  • ScarDuck14's avatar
    ScarDuck14
    Legend
    2 years ago
    @Nuvolarix I’ve memorised the few commands that I use. But even so messing about with the D-Pad does on occasion find my nose planted into a barrier 😂

    But as the Monzstar says. Low hanging QOL improvements would do away with the useless ones and allow us to customise in which order the ones we use the most
  • Monzstar83's avatar
    Monzstar83
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago
    @Nuvolarix wrote:

    @Monzstar83 @ScarDuck14 Voice control was by far my favorite feature, offering the most immersive gaming experience, I'm still crying... 😞 today on PS5 is 120 fps VS voice control 😞 😞 😞

    @Nuvolarix its OK for me for now because I’m not too bothered about using the PS4 version on my PS5, because I value voice commands over the other things the PS5 game version has.

    The day is coming though when the newer games will be next gen only; and when that day inevitably comes, with voice commands and an editable 1st page of MFD missing, I will genuinely lose it, because they’ve had plenty of time to think about how to deal with it, and it’s not as if it’s a new issue that hasn’t been raised before. If they actually did thorough play testing, it would be obvious that MFD needs sorting, and know voice commands helped cover its failings. I’d bet everyone has problems with it.

    Things like filters on saved setup page really grate as well. 

  • ScarDuck14's avatar
    ScarDuck14
    Legend
    2 years ago
    @Monzstar83 But so the play testing guys understand what is wanted and needed when it comes to QOL. I’d imagine most off them don’t even play F1 game
  • ScarDuck14's avatar
    ScarDuck14
    Legend
    2 years ago
    @Monzstar83 What’s more beta testing they only ask for feedback on handling and stability. Plus doesn’t help they dot. Beta test any off the career modes
  • Monzstar83's avatar
    Monzstar83
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago
    @ScarDuck14 wrote:
    @Monzstar83But so the play testing guys understand what is wanted and needed when it comes to QOL. I’d imagine most off them don’t even play F1 game

    @ScarDuck14 true. With the MFD I’d wager it was tested while stationary. Works? Yep - passed. 😂

    Game functions can be specified in both functional (“ability to communicate with garage”) AND non-functional (“ability to communicate with garage” but with reliability, efficiency and usability).

    When you look at the easier win side of QOL (as you know I have), a lot of what I’ve found falls into the non-functional category. As you say, they need just 1 guy actually playing the game and most of these QOL things become obvious.

    For those interested I have copied my previous list into a new suggestion thread here: https://answers.ea.com/t5/Game-Suggestions/Reprise-Reprise-Low-Hanging-Fruit-Thread-please-action/td-p/13809604 

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