As I'm not enjoying the game at the minute, I've decided to do some testing. Last year's game I started a My Team on AI 85 using Medium TC and anti-lock brakes. And had won drivers & constructors' championships at the end of season 4. So not claiming to be the fastest/ the best driver, More a solid, consistent racer. This year's game I'm having to use full TC as medium is too close to off this year (which is probably why I can't enjoy the game). And I had heard this year's AI was better, so thought I'd start 75 in Grand Prix mode, but found it a struggle and wanted to know why. So decided to do these tests. Grand Prix Mode with settings in pictures, the only thing to change was the AI. I decided to test at Bahrain, Spain & Belgium. I have done 5 valid laps in TT on each track. Then took out the fastest and slowest, and averaged the 3 remaining times to see what level @FILaps had me racing at, as it was a great guide last year. THIS IS ON XBOX

Some of the results are clearly affected by variation which is perfectly fine. If times wouldn't vary the same race run over and over again would give the same exact results. So if the pole time changes by 1.2 and teammate is faster by 0.7 it's fine (on average there is an improvement of around 1 second). The game has to simulate somehow a driver having a good day and a driver having a bad day.In my opinion even the pole time has to vary a bit as it does. Even in real life there are sessions where a perfect lap is required for pole and others where a solid lap is more than enough to get P1.Overall time is weird though but I wouldn't pay to much attention to it. There are so many factors that can affect overall time. I don't know if the grip stays the same. DRS trains and ERS management can affect it too.I've been testing the AI since forever in 100% distance and what I'm seeing in terms of race pace usually makes sense. In short distances the results can be close. In a full distance race a 5/10 increment can be the difference between winning and not even fighting for the podium. In 25% cars never reach the clean air phase where you can truly judge pace.Over the years I've seen content creators that put up the AI by 10 points and still get the same results. If I do the same I go from winning to getting 20/25 seconds...

The AI is very weird this year in terms of pace. Inconsistent difficulty from track to track has been a thing since forever and it's very annoying but this year they seem inconsistent on the same track as well. I'm in season 3 in My Team and I haven't changed difficulty yet and I feel like I have improved since my first season a lot, in fact, I know I did by Time Trial times. But the thing is, I'm actually getting worse compared to AI. The car improved a lot since then and it's supposed to be a championship contender performance wise and proved by my 92 rated teammate Jacques Villeneuve who is getting top 3 finishes. Me on the other hand, I can't even get out of Q1. Race pace is good though or at least a lot better but still.Example from the most recent quali I did, I posted a Time Trial time in Imola that by some research and data like done here is supposed to be on difficulty level of 99. I have My Team difficulty set on 69, season 3 championship contender car that is faster and easier to drive than the one in TT, same setup and the lap I did felt pretty much like the one I did in TT. I qualified last. I don't get it.

This year the difficulty is completely broken. I'm just in my first season on myteam,The firsts races was ok at 91 difficulty level (previous years I was between 95 and 100) 1 Top 10 in Barhein , 1P9 on Australia and Imola, P12 on Miami, but since Monaco I have improved my car and the team is on the top of the midfield.My team mate improved a lot his pace compared to me. If I want to have the same pace I need to reduce difficulty under 80. A 1.42.500 in Baku qualified me in P20. (In the real life, a 1,42,500 would have qualified me in P5 just behind the top 4 and in front of Russel.)Other thing I've noticed is you can have a completely different set up on the same track , the handling is the same, just the top speed change.No difference between suspensions set on 0 or 10The same for the Ride height, you can run with a setting value on 1, you will never hear the cars touchng the floor.I play with Fanatec Wheel and in the past changing the set up changed the handling...This game is a big deception for me.

Baku is the hardest track thus year by far. I don't know if it's straight line speed related or ers related. Even the handling feels weird at Baku. The AI seems to be faster in Q1. I had a couple of poles after struggling to get through Q1. I thought it was me being cold and not in rhythm but the more I play the more I feel it's connected to the AI or the track evolution

@sirio42994 Ers + DRS + slipstream I just have around 10 kph more than the AI that has no DRS open. Front wing on 6 rear wing 12.

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DRudd13
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@Zv1k0 Thanks for the reply. I'm glad you agree that the AI is weird, too. And what you say is what I experienced in a full season of Grand Prix with Lando on 75. 99 down to 69 used to mean you'd be 3 seconds a lap faster than the quickest car. And that's clearly not happening.
DRudd13
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
So I tried level 97 and got spanked. Again, look at some AI placements.
DRudd13
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
So I tried level 90. And got it close enough for a match. So Codemasters/ EA think I should be playing it at level 90, but as you can see by my 75 trail I'd probably be running last like @Zv1k0 And for a little more context I have done this week's weekly event on level 85.
Juju_59320
4 years ago
This year the difficulty is completely broken. I'm just in my first season on myteam,
The firsts races was ok at 91 difficulty level (previous years I was between 95 and 100)
1 Top 10 in Barhein , 1P9 on Australia and Imola, P12 on Miami, but since Monaco I have improved my car and the team is on the top of the midfield.
My team mate improved a lot his pace compared to me. If I want to have the same pace I need to reduce difficulty under 80.
A 1.42.500 in Baku qualified me in P20. (In the real life, a 1,42,500 would have qualified me in P5 just behind the top 4 and in front of Russel.)
Other thing I've noticed is you can have a completely different set up on the same track , the handling is the same, just the top speed change.
No difference between suspensions set on 0 or 10
The same for the Ride height, you can run with a setting value on 1, you will never hear the cars touchng the floor.
I play with Fanatec Wheel and in the past changing the set up changed the handling...
This game is a big deception for me.
DRudd13
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@Juju_59320Thanks for the reply. It's stories like yours and @Zv1k0 and my experience on Grand Prix 75 why I haven't started a my team. That's some difference at Baku and very strange about the set-ups. I'll have to try that. I've just been using the same set-up to keep it consistent. But it's anything but!
sirio42994
4 years ago
Baku is the hardest track thus year by far. I don't know if it's straight line speed related or ers related. Even the handling feels weird at Baku.
The AI seems to be faster in Q1. I had a couple of poles after struggling to get through Q1. I thought it was me being cold and not in rhythm but the more I play the more I feel it's connected to the AI or the track evolution
Juju_59320
4 years ago
@sirio42994 Ers + DRS + slipstream I just have around 10 kph more than the AI that has no DRS open. Front wing on 6 rear wing 12.
DRudd13
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@sirio42994 I'll add Baku to be tested. I don't think it’s your driving or JUST straight line speed. This year's game has got my head hurting!!! Because I've done the weekly event on level 90 this week. But what @Juju_59320 has said about ERS + DRS + slipstream has just happened to me on 75 at Bahrain, and I had new softs compared to his older mediums. I have pictures and video, just need to get them from Xbox to laptop.
DRudd13
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
So after doing the weekly at level 90 and the short qualifying test at Bahrain also being close to my teammate at level 90. I've decided to do more testing at 75. Bahrain has my head hurting. This is not just AI having more straight line speed. Everyone started on softs apart from me Danni Ric and Lando who took mediums. So after the pit stop, I came out in front of Alonso, but he got past me because of cold tyres. But not by much and for 4 and a half laps I had fresher softer tyres, DRS, slipstream and ERS and couldn't get near him even though when I watched the reply he barely used his ERS to stay in front, until the last 2 laps where he pulled away using it.
DRudd13
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
Mine and Alonso's times and the videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzLKXoEBjXE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lGSnCD8Ewg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfDi_tDszIo

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