AI gaining Massive Speed on the straights
It’s like they have DRS the whole race
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One thing I've noticed is that on the straights the AI is rapid, is this a glitch (I've heard the ai has something similar to infinite ers or something) or is it as intended? (This was based on the GP mode with the Ferrari car)
It’s not so much they are very fast on the straights. But more a case off they car carrying more speed through the last corner and onto the straight than you are. Which is all to do with traction. using analog sticks hinders you cause it’s harder to be smooth when opening the steering and is your using full tc. You won’t be able to accelerate until tc can’t detect wheel slip. Not a issue through medium to fast corners. But slower corners try short shifting which you can still do if using auto gears
I currently use no Tc, am on a wheel and I'm mostly noticing this when I'm at maximum speed on a straight, the ai seems to be way faster on the straight, and when i asked around on discord several people said that there is a glitch where the AI can deploy basically infinite ers or something to that nature
Was the same last year they have unlimited ers
Its outrageous how you can be on the ERS DRS wide open and they pull half a second on you in a straight line
- @haardcorefoley I have noticed this so often, I can be behind a car with DRS open and a car behind with be 1.5 seconds behind and breeze past with no DRS.
its taking the * really to have to over drive the car that much to be competative, we just race fore fun me and a few mates , with a few ai and its not enjoyable right now we normally have them on 80 someone to chase if you fall off etc
but right now they on 60 and we are still getting whipped,
They must have unlimited ERS
Same. I will match AI out of a turn into a long straight. Within a few seconds, they take off. I get passed by every driver on the grid eventually. I gain time in corners but lose it back plus some on the straights.
edit: I use a wheel and no TC or other assists.
I heard in the last dev videos, that Height settings will have a big influence on the top spee :, lower will be the car, lower will be you're top speed but you will have more grip in corners. And Higher the car will be, higher will be the top speed, but car will have less grip in corners.
Its been like that for every game but, I have to use 0-0 wings and drs+ers to be able to keep up with the ai straight line speed
(and yes im on wheel no tc or other assists)
- @LittleAmigoBrit I did several tests when exiting a bend followed by a long straight line with all the cars and with tc or without tc, the problem is that the AI on the acceleration will be at full speed whereas we are human without tc we have to dose the acceleration otherwise the car will spin and with tc the help will ensure that the car does not spin so will do:
acceleration, no acceleration, acceleration, no acceleration, acceleration, no acceleration and that over a second to a second and a half (it's huge in F1) when the AI will be in constant acceleration and will not lose the car, suddenly with any stable will have better acceleration.
I tested with ferrari and red bull against williams, aston martin, mclaren in a lap without drs with a 1.5 second gap or even 2 seconds, I catch myself directly out of a turn, I defend myself with the ers to count on my max speed, but except that after a while I have no more ers, but the ai seems to have ers at infinity suddenly I get doubled.
I qualify for example 5th I finish 10th or even more and that has almost all the races.
Usually I play at 79-80 then I'm at 69 and I still think it's gone down otherwise it's not realistic.Experiencing this as well. Playing Bahrain at 95AI. No assists and driving as Sergio Perez in GP mode. With DRS and ERS engaged I can barely get by another car on the front straight. Something just seems out of whack. I thought Red Bull had a straight line speed advantage and yet I can't get passed a Mercedes no matter how perfect I exit the last corner. I have to out brake them into turn one and the AI turns into me all the time unless I have a wheel ahead of them. It's like they have zero awareness that you are along side.
I tried the top speed preset and still struggled to get by with DRS and ERS.
Mainly I've been using TRL's setup but lowered the on throttle diff to avoid spinning on corner exits. I even lowered the front and rear wings by 4 each and did not gain any top speed advantage.
My other gripe is new tires feel like I'm driving in the wet. 20-30% throttle will spin me out. I can barely get through turn 1 and 2 at Bahrain coming out of the pits and I lose the race every time on my out lap.
- @Hansenhaus I ran 5-7 wings at Bahrain and they still gapped me
I forgot to specify, I only play in pilot career, no my team for me I expect F1 m***ger for that xD
I’ve just started another my team career but this time as I chose Renault a started as a mid team but as I suspected I’m same starting rank as I am as a newcomer when picking redbull down in 8th in team rankings just above McLaren
And obviously can’t directly compare my team car has a few extra starting upgrades but I assume so have the ai teams.
So I find it bizarre Just done race pace on medium in fp2 and finished top beating second place Perez by a tenth and he had softs fitted…. whereas as a newcomer it’s normally 12th -18th
My brain is freaking out: it doesn’t fair well when it can’t find a pattern:, gunna be 🤪 night
I’m on a pad and use TC and I still have this issue, it’s not to do with TC
Basically engine is delivering to much torque through gears 1-4/5 esp for pad users. Tc off means power is wasted due to wheels spinning as it’s almost impossible with so little travel on the throttle. Even with 100% linearity. With tc on, means power is wasted as it’s reduced to stop wheels spinning. Once the torque update comes out. Both issues will be dramatically improved. However apparently update won’t be here until mid August 😡
Also med tc will be unpredictable and you may find unpredictable rear end snapping.
There definitely is a problem with AI’s top speed don’t let anyone tell you any different. I play on 90 AI and even still when I bump it down to 70 I’m still losing 0.400-0.800 each lap on Baku straight. I’ve tried different set ups and no matter what I’m getting burnt on the straights. I’ll have ERS on overtake and DRS and I’ll still only gain around 0.100 on the car ahead, it’s ridiculous at this point and needs fixing
Hey everyone,
I have noticed that in my gameplay as well, and will also happily take your feedback and experience here and pass that over to our team. If you have any observations or more feedback on this, please let me know 👍
-rephii
Thanks for the response. I hope we can get an official word on whether or not something is broken. Could it be the players car has a capped top speed? Even with wing setting around 10-20 range, max tire pressures and the lowest ride height I am struggling to pass on the main straight in Bahrain (driving as Perez) with DRS and ERS combined. I should be blowing by the AI when they do not have DRS. I've had AI cars gain on me while I have DRS and they don't. If the AI cars have DRS behind me they rapidly catch up in a way I'm not able to do to them.
Shouldn't Red Bull should have the fastest straight line speed? It does not appear they do.
I’m losing time with drs and the leading car has no drs. It’s nuts
I have the same issue. I'm playing from few years and that was something new for me. I had AI set on 100 in previous verisons and currently I have can't even catch them on 80 in striaght line.
I thought that was settings with my wheel or drivers and I spend a lot of hours to figure out and that is my suggest.
Please fix it because this game with AI mode is unplayable and unfair.
I'm going back to version 2021(waiting for any update). ☹️In Bahrain I got absolutely murdered on the straights. I thought it was due to me having changed the wing settings a bit. But reading this it made more sense why I was a sitting duck at every straight.
However, I just did a race at Jeddah (My Team) and was not nearly as slow as I was at Bahrain. I was around the same pace as the AI on the long straights, although they did gain some time in the traction zone of the main straight. I had lowered my wings with 5 click or something like that. Will have to see how this plays out at Australia.
The AI are absolutely insane on the straights. On some tracks like Bahrain and Miami even more so and probably other tracks as well but cant remember from the top of my head
I was comfortably racing and winning on F1 2021 with controller and 0 TC on 102 AI difficulty
I lowered it to 100 just to be safe while i learn F1 2022
On my team career i have the best engine with nearly all the power upgrades 6/7 and 5/6 drag reduction on aero and also quite a few weight reduction upgradesThe AI on 100 eat me ALIVE on the straights they are catching me or pulling away while i have ERS, DRS active - its a bloody joke
If i run very low wings - 15-25 range edging towards the lower scope mostly they still catch me easily and pass me and i have to do ridicolous divebombs to even keep up
This is of course with near maxed tyre pressures, 3-4 ride heights, i have never ever had this issue on F1 2021
Seems like they have insane TC, limitless ERS battery, and running like 0-0 wings or IDK. If i match them on the wings then i struggle in corners as well. It might be a bug which i half expected once EA took over codies
Something needs to be done asap, its taken most of the fun out of the game for me - I am all for a challenge but when Jarno Opmeer gets done on the straights comfortably by the slowest cars you know something is upDid you testing how AI feeling in grand prix mode or single race ?
Unfortunately I didnt, maybe AI are damaged only in career mode .
So it’s not just me. I ended up running 5-7 wings at Bahrain and they’re still pulling away
