AI gaining Massive Speed on the straights
It’s like they have DRS the whole race
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There definitely is a problem with AI’s top speed don’t let anyone tell you any different. I play on 90 AI and even still when I bump it down to 70 I’m still losing 0.400-0.800 each lap on Baku straight. I’ve tried different set ups and no matter what I’m getting burnt on the straights. I’ll have ERS on overtake and DRS and I’ll still only gain around 0.100 on the car ahead, it’s ridiculous at this point and needs fixing
EA_rephii
EA SPORTS FC™ Team
EA SPORTS FC™ TeamHey everyone,
I have noticed that in my gameplay as well, and will also happily take your feedback and experience here and pass that over to our team. If you have any observations or more feedback on this, please let me know 👍
-rephii
Thanks for the response. I hope we can get an official word on whether or not something is broken. Could it be the players car has a capped top speed? Even with wing setting around 10-20 range, max tire pressures and the lowest ride height I am struggling to pass on the main straight in Bahrain (driving as Perez) with DRS and ERS combined. I should be blowing by the AI when they do not have DRS. I've had AI cars gain on me while I have DRS and they don't. If the AI cars have DRS behind me they rapidly catch up in a way I'm not able to do to them.
Shouldn't Red Bull should have the fastest straight line speed? It does not appear they do.
- @EA_rephii This passage of my message explains the problem well.:
I did several tests when exiting a bend followed by a long straight line with all the cars and with tc or without tc, the problem is that the AI on the acceleration will be at full speed whereas we are human without tc we have to dose the acceleration otherwise the car will spin and with tc the help will ensure that the car does not spin so will do:
acceleration, no acceleration, acceleration, no acceleration, acceleration, no acceleration and that over a second to a second and a half (it's huge in F1) when the AI will be in constant acceleration and will not lose the car, suddenly with any stable will have better acceleration.
I tested with ferrari and red bull against williams, aston martin, mclaren in a lap without drs with a 1.5 second gap or even 2 seconds, I catch myself directly out of a turn, I defend myself with the ers to count on my max speed, but except that after a while I have no more ers, but the ai seems to have ers at infinity suddenly I get doubled.
I qualify for example 5th I finish 10th or even more and that has almost all the races.
PS: I was told that with this problem of the AI in a straight line because it has a cheater acceleration suddenly it uses less ers which makes it hard to believe that it has unlimited ersThe AI have 10-15 mph over us, we can't run anyless aero and they still catch us even on 0-0 aero they blast past yu like you are standing still
they seem to have unlimted ers or something
Please fix the OP AI on straights on Xbox and PlayStation
Please have the team fix this. It’s degrading and discouraging to us long term fans that are use to playing the AI on a specific difficulty. The AI’s straight line speed is insanity and it leaves to ultra inconsistent racing. I can be way faster everywhere else and then lose a good 2 seconds due to the AI catching me so fast.
@EA_rephii Thank you for replying and letting us know you are working on it, in general, I believe a bit more communication between Codemasters and the userbase is needed (especially right now)
@EA_rephii Thanks, I hope it gets patched. I experience the same as the others here. AI incredible quick on the straights. Lowering AI difficulty does not affect it much. They just get slower on the corners. This makes racing quite unrealistic and not enjoyable.
I'm just going to confirm this is an issue for me as well. Been playing the series for years around 95% difficulty and suddenly the AI is way faster than me this year. Last year that difficulty was doable for me but much more challenging than previous games. This year I've lowered to 85% and am still significantly slower than the AI. Something is amiss for sure.
I don't see this issue. I think it is a lot about learning the new handling and getting good exits for the long straights.
Couple of examples from today, MyTeam, Miami GP, AI 98, no TC and I have the worst car on the grid.
Case 1:
I was behind Albon in Williams, we both had medium tyres. His tyres were a bit older than mine. Williams is also a slightly better car than mine.
I was looking for an overtake for several laps and then was able to do it in the back straight by using DRS and ERS. Good fight and clean overtake.
Case 2:
10 laps remaining and Tsunoda came out from pit with fresh softs. I had softs as well, but already almost ten laps wear. Was able to defend him until the end of the race by getting good exists to long straights and using ERS when necessary. Tsunoda had DRS almost on every lap, but was not able to overtake.
For both of these cases good to know, AI was running preset 4 with 8/18 wings. I had much more wing so was slower on straights, but able to pull some gap on sector 1.
If AI speed is going to be adjusted, hopefully it doesn't destroy good raising like in previous games. It has always been too easy to defend as pass AI. This year it is a good fight I think.
- @EA_rephii It does seem like the AI races with unlimited ERS, or maybe in a hotlap mode. I can tune my setup to match their speed trap speeds (or be very similar) without using ERS. But in a race, I need to use ERS to match their speeds. Obviously, this only works for a few laps until my battery is drained. Then I am vulnerable for the rest of the race.
It does seems like something is off, or very odd. Hopefully your team can find it and make a quick fix. It’s still broken after the patch. It’s almost impossible to complete practice program lap times because of the deficit on the straights. I will ace the corners and get a great exit but still lose like four tenths on the straight. Please tell them to fix this I’m not enjoying playing this game anymore and I’m sure a lot of people feel the same
Don't know if anyone else has found this but the AI speed seems to kick in around 6th & 7th gear. Corner exists are pretty equal and I'm able to stay with them but once the car hits those gears (around 170mph) the AI just get a massive speed boost. I've also noticed that my team mate in the same car achieves higher top speeds on long straights. My car maxes out at 208 ish while theirs will continue onto 212-215. Its ridiculous
@EA_rephiiis there progress regarding this problem? there is an update now 1.06 but the ai still isnt fixed
Why has nothing happened about this yet?
