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raulsergio7's avatar
4 years ago

AI having more grip on cold tyres

Product: F1 22
Platform:Sony Playstation 4
Summarize your bug The AI seems to have more grip on cold tyres. Especially when the AI are making their pitstop on the same lap when I make my pitstop.
What is your 16 digit Report Code? ABEB-AVAC-BMKB-MVKV
Which area is the bug/glitch in? My Team
How often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)
Did you have cross-play enabled? No
Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Do multiple races in driver/ My Team career and Grand Prix mode.
What happens when the bug occurs? The AI has a lot more grip on cold tyres compared to the player. After a pitstop the AI gains a lot of time while the player is struggling to find any grip on cold tyres. Once the tyres are up to temperature the advantage of the AI is gone.
What do you expect to see? I expect the AI to struggle a bit more to get any grip on cold tyres.

Product: F1 22
Platform:Sony Playstation 4
Summarize your bug The AI seems to have more grip on cold tyres. Especially when the AI are making their pitstop on the same lap when I make my pitstop.
What is your 16 digit Report Code? ABEB-AVAC-BMKB-MVKV
Which area is the bug/glitch in? My Team
How often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)
Did you have cross-play enabled? No
Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Do multiple races in driver/ My Team career and Grand Prix mode.
What happens when the bug occurs? The AI has a lot more grip on cold tyres compared to the player. After a pitstop the AI gains a lot of time while the player is struggling to find any grip on cold tyres. Once the tyres are up to temperature the advantage of the AI is gone.
What do you expect to see? I expect the AI to struggle a bit more to get any grip on cold tyres.

Edit:

played driver career mode today with Haas around Australia. I was fighting Ricciardo the entire race. We both pitted on the same lap and switched to the same tire (mediums). Gasly, the driver who was around 2 seconds ahead of me before the pitstop, pitted 1 lap earlier than Ricciardo and myself.

 

These were the laptimes on the outlap right after the pitstop:

Gasly: 1:27.084

Me: 1:28.087 (little bit of traffic aswell. Could've gone 2 to 3 tenths faster)

Ricciardo: 1:26.817

Conclusion: AI gains around a second on you for free while you're struggling to get temperature in the tires. This realy has to be investigated and fixed soon.

7 Replies

  • clovis993's avatar
    clovis993
    4 years ago

    AI doesn't have tyres wear.

    At end of every stint with every tyre they make record laps. Strategy have no sense.

  • This issue is platform independent. And it need to be adressed ASAP as it breaks the option choose to simulate inner core tyre temps in this un-completed state.

  • I really find it incredibly frustrating and idiotic when they use the "realism" excuse when they make a design choice that makes the game less fun and smooth to play but at the same time AI doesn't suffer from tyre temps, tyre wear, have lighter cars and countless other things.

  • This is completely infuriating.

    Monza. Multiplayer with mates and AI.

    I was in a Mercedes and pitted on to hards in a 50% race (because tyre allocation is broken) one lap earlier than Stroll. So by the time I came past the pits next time they were nice and warmed up. He came out of the pits right on front of me. His tyres should have been stone cold. His traction out of the chicane was insane. Basically we're hindering ourselves by putting tyre temp to surface and carcass because it seems AI just get lovely warm tyres either way. Couple that with the fact that they STILL get ridiculous launch out of slow speed corners and it's not even fun anymore

  • Wow they said the career was fixed...

    We had a ok tyre model, but they changed it to be more realistic, now we have to:

    Drive almost all tracks with minimal tyre pressure.

    We have more disadvantage because cold tyres out of the pits..

    We struggle at the end of the stint with grip (temp slowly go up because you still want to go fast) and the AI don't..

    The AI makes an insane fast laptime on the last lap, sorry but i can't and reallife also not all drivers can do that..

    We have to set up our car to have perfect rear grip, because once you slide a little with your rear and your rear temps go up... well thats just it and you are screwed..

    Why does the AI not have to struggle a little like we have to? And this alone is for the tyre model.. not talking about the:

    Perfect launch AI get every corner.

    Or the AI can't see you and ram you out.

    Or the AI slowdown in qualli lap and hinder you.

    Or the i don't know how many bug are still in...

    Careerplay is still bull.... after 1 month of trying to fix there own mess. To bad i can't get my money back, this is just not fun.

    Like i said in earlier posts, hope they get this mess fixed, but this is the last time i buy an F1 game before i read possitive reviews...

    Thanks to all the guys that keep having the energie to post the bugs and beta test the game.

  • Edit:

    played driver career mode today with Haas around Australia. I was fighting Ricciardo the entire race. We both pitted on the same lap and switched to the same tire (mediums). Gasly, the driver who was around 2 seconds ahead of me before the pitstop, pitted 1 lap earlier than Ricciardo and myself.

    These were the laptimes on the outlap right after the pitstop:

    Gasly: 1:27.084

    Me: 1:28.087 (little bit of traffic aswell. Could've gone 2 to 3 tenths faster)

    Ricciardo: 1:26.817

    Conclusion: AI gains around a second on you for free while you're struggling to get temperature in the tires. This realy has to be investigated and fixed soon.

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