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David Greco's Handling, Driving and Setup Q&A (?)

Hi, I wonder if we may have a topic like this about the new F1 22 game like we had for F1 2020 here, it would be very interesting and appreciated 🙂 Ciao, Nuv
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    BarryBL
    3 years ago

    I'll ask him and see if we can find a decent time where we are free for some Q&A action. 

    We'll it'll be David, not me. Anyone can drive in the midfield every Friday. I'll look to move a lot of the stuff we are used to seeing into EA Answers as we escalate transition. 

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Meza994
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@NuvolarixSorry haha the technical stuff aside my english isnt always the best nor are my thoughts well planned and im changing it mid sentence soo sorry for my occasionally convoluted sentences😅😂

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That’s really an interesting discussion. And what about the boost of power during shift at relatively low speed from for example 4º to 5º gear? It is common this year to spin the car at corner exit when you go from 70% to 100% throttle shifting up

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Hi,

I wonder if we may have a topic like this about the new F1 22 game like we had for F1 2020 here, it would be very interesting and appreciated 🙂

Ciao,

Nuv

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That’s really an interesting discussion. And what about the boost of power during shift at relatively low speed from for example 4º to 5º gear? It is common this year to spin the car at corner exit when you go from 70% to 100% throttle shifting up

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That’s really an interesting discussion. And what about the boost of power during shift at relatively low speed from for example 4º to 5º gear? It is common this year to spin the car at corner exit when you go from 70% to 100% throttle shifting up

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I'll ask him and see if we can find a decent time where we are free for some Q&A action. 

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We'll it'll be David, not me. Anyone can drive in the midfield every Friday. I'll look to move a lot of the stuff we are used to seeing into EA Answers as we escalate transition. 

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I don't feel comfortable with reducing slow speed grip till I can finally get the traction to feel right.","body@stringLength":"512","rawBody":"@Meza994 the only problem, if I remove 10% of grip, the traction also gets so bad. I wish it was only grip. Perhaps a different way to do grip. Say Miami, if you lap in practice 1 at the beginning will be a lot slower but not too bad to drive. Perhaps the rubbering is too strong.

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@DavidG53Yeah i know what you mean but comparing how they got onto the throttle i dont feel like the slow speed grip was the big problem but more the high speed. During my testing i would have my car spinning in Bahrain Turn 12 due to too little rear grip.

Most tracks are mostly around 4-5% too much grip from my testing, thats not too bad and the grip difference can be corrected with setups. But from what i saw we are almost at the limit of how understeery we can get the 22 cars😄 (10-1 suspension and 8-18 aero).. *Another thing worth mentioning for the less grip is: In Bahrain they run higher downforce than in all games which of course helps with the total grip. Especially with the new 1-50 aero this would be good as some might try to go with low downforce but struggle to get through the corners while too much downforce (near Hungary levels) would fly through all corners but be too slow on the straights - best would be a Spain downforce package, at least IRL they use something around those levels.

Maybe also (just my theory) its a different weight distribution-front grip balance. More weight distribution (for example 0.04-0.05 instead of 0.02 in 2021) for a balanced turn in but reducing the front grip for better cornering speed = a bit more traction/general grip. With the lower total grip it might just work but thats all guess work based on 2021 and might be wasted effort for how the whole aero balance etc. is in 22. But the too much rubbering theory might also be part of it! Maybe start with lower grip than 2021 - as they sometimes are really slow in FP1 especially without feeder series and get to a bit less rubbered in than it was.. But yeah thats all not easy😄 Im totally fine with Esports being 1-1.5s quicker than IRL, thats even realistic IMO

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@DavidG53Yeah i know what you mean but comparing how they got onto the throttle i dont feel like the slow speed grip was the big problem but more the high speed. During my testing i would have my car spinning in Bahrain Turn 12 due to too little rear grip.

Most tracks are mostly around 4-5% too much grip from my testing, thats not too bad and the grip difference can be corrected with setups. But from what i saw we are almost at the limit of how understeery we can get the 22 cars😄 (10-1 suspension and 8-18 aero).. *Another thing worth mentioning for the less grip is: In Bahrain they run higher downforce than in all games which of course helps with the total grip. Especially with the new 1-50 aero this would be good as some might try to go with low downforce but struggle to get through the corners while too much downforce (near Hungary levels) would fly through all corners but be too slow on the straights - best would be a Spain downforce package, at least IRL they use something around those levels.

Maybe also (just my theory) its a different weight distribution-front grip balance. More weight distribution (for example 0.04-0.05 instead of 0.02 in 2021) for a balanced turn in but reducing the front grip for better cornering speed = a bit more traction/general grip. With the lower total grip it might just work but thats all guess work based on 2021 and might be wasted effort for how the whole aero balance etc. is in 22. But the too much rubbering theory might also be part of it! Maybe start with lower grip than 2021 - as they sometimes are really slow in FP1 especially without feeder series and get to a bit less rubbered in than it was.. But yeah thats all not easy😄 Im totally fine with Esports being 1-1.5s quicker than IRL, thats even realistic IMO

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Not always easy to follow the speech but interesting stuff here… 😎

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Not always easy to follow the speech but interesting stuff here… 😎

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@NuvolarixSorry haha the technical stuff aside my english isnt always the best nor are my thoughts well planned and im changing it mid sentence soo sorry for my occasionally convoluted sentences😅😂

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@NuvolarixSorry haha the technical stuff aside my english isnt always the best nor are my thoughts well planned and im changing it mid sentence soo sorry for my occasionally convoluted sentences😅😂

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