Hi,

I wonder if we may have a topic like this about the new F1 22 game like we had for F1 2020 here, it would be very interesting and appreciated 🙂

Ciao,

Nuv

I'll ask him and see if we can find a decent time where we are free for some Q&A action. 

We'll it'll be David, not me. Anyone can drive in the midfield every Friday. I'll look to move a lot of the stuff we are used to seeing into EA Answers as we escalate transition. 

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@mariohomoh wrote:
What @DavidG53 said makes perfect sense and will hopefully lead to more variance in the setups. It falls in line with what we see in the sport, with cars having inherent handling tendencies mostly due to their weight distribution and aero balance.

Glad to know that the different weight balances will also call for a different approach to move the center of pressure in a way that makes sense both for the car and the track at hand.

David, do you happen to know if we will get more telemetry data this time? Would be a joy to make our setups having data for how much pitch, roll and/or overall suspension travel we're getting.

Me intrometendo no pessoal, alguma relação com sampa? Lembro de ter visto há tempos uma escola de lá no seu cv!

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Sorry but telemetry output is not something that I have control over.

Sim, passei 6 anos da minha vida em Sao Paulo.

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@mariohomoh wrote:
What @DavidG53 said makes perfect sense and will hopefully lead to more variance in the setups. It falls in line with what we see in the sport, with cars having inherent handling tendencies mostly due to their weight distribution and aero balance.

Glad to know that the different weight balances will also call for a different approach to move the center of pressure in a way that makes sense both for the car and the track at hand.

David, do you happen to know if we will get more telemetry data this time? Would be a joy to make our setups having data for how much pitch, roll and/or overall suspension travel we're getting.

Me intrometendo no pessoal, alguma relação com sampa? Lembro de ter visto há tempos uma escola de lá no seu cv!

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Sorry but telemetry output is not something that I have control over.

Sim, passei 6 anos da minha vida em Sao Paulo.

@DavidG53 próxima vez que eu for à Europa darei um jeito de levar pão de queijo pra você. Os correios europeus que se virem!

Back on topic, does the game take into account camber setting when computing tyre wear? As in there being a sweet spot for each track (and driving style), given how both too much and too little camber can increase tyre temperature and degradation? Or is tyre wear just generally bound by suspension stiffness plus tyre pressures?

@DavidG53 próxima vez que eu for à Europa darei um jeito de levar pão de queijo pra você. Os correios europeus que se virem!

Back on topic, does the game take into account camber setting when computing tyre wear? As in there being a sweet spot for each track (and driving style), given how both too much and too little camber can increase tyre temperature and degradation? Or is tyre wear just generally bound by suspension stiffness plus tyre pressures?

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@mariohomoh wrote:
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@DavidG53 próxima vez que eu for à Europa darei um jeito de levar pão de queijo pra você. Os correios europeus que se virem!

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Back on topic, does the game take into account camber setting when computing tyre wear? As in there being a sweet spot for each track (and driving style), given how both too much and too little camber can increase tyre temperature and degradation? Or is tyre wear just generally bound by suspension stiffness plus tyre pressures?

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Hahaha obrigado! Se conseguir requeijao tbm :D

It does, but is an area that needs improvements. Tyre pressure is the most effective and dynamic atm

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@mariohomoh wrote:
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@DavidG53 próxima vez que eu for à Europa darei um jeito de levar pão de queijo pra você. Os correios europeus que se virem!

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Back on topic, does the game take into account camber setting when computing tyre wear? As in there being a sweet spot for each track (and driving style), given how both too much and too little camber can increase tyre temperature and degradation? Or is tyre wear just generally bound by suspension stiffness plus tyre pressures?

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Hahaha obrigado! Se conseguir requeijao tbm :D

It does, but is an area that needs improvements. Tyre pressure is the most effective and dynamic atm

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@mariohomoh wrote:
@DavidG53 haha will do my best!

Counting the days for when the Suspension Geometry tab will throw the \"right right left left\" people out for a ride!

It's a shame that all these great details and improvements in the sim side of things tend to fly over the head of the general player base. I'm loving how every single change being discussed here is pushing the game to be more realistic and the current shortcomings are being worked on or at least acknowledged.

@ActuallyImJulie tyre wear is tricky in that we can get it either from heat (in that higher pressures would be conducive to higher wear rate as it increases carcass temps) or from from flexing and twisting against the tarmac (in that higher pressures would be conducive to a lower wear rate as it makes for a more rigid sidewall).

It was always hard for me to say that the game got it wrong. If anything I always thought the games were too lenient with the whole wear thing and did not make it the cut-throat balance game that it is in real life.

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Agree 100%, is very hard to get tyre pressure right. They have been tweaked thanks to more detail in the tyre model. Should make more sense.

A short real life story to share with you guys, I have been doing quite a bit of karting practice lately, back to my roots lol, and I find tyre pressure that used to work for me, don't work anymore, because of my weight, emh, got heavier since my karting days, 20 years ago :D. Had to bump up by 5 psi my usual tyre pressures for example. Even though everyone at the race track has been telling me that I am running way too high tyre pressure, the laptimes are saying I am up to half a second quicker and more consistent.

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@Meza994 wrote:
@mariohomohTrue and we will never be able to get it in the game due to it being so complex, track and air temperatures are another factor of major importance to choosing the right pressure..

Idk but to higher temps, higher wear and best grip on one end would probably be best.. IRL teams always try to go for the lowest pressure (at least that the myth haha) they can run consistently so e.g. having the minimum pressure with highest temps and highest wear would destroy every soft tyre but having the pressure too high would make hard tires struggle with heating up at all..

IMO pressure for each compound independantly would be best too, especially should we ever get track and air temperatures to really matter in the game.. I know im dreaming again on my favourite topic😂

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Yes there is a danger that weighting each variable sufficiently enough to make a difference could lead to bizarre situations where the majority would be critical if it occurred. On the flipside, you would then get people saying that one aspect alone was having no effect.

It is probably a combination of two or three factors when setup changes have a marked effect, the real skill is knowing WHICH two or three can counteract imbalance or loss of performance or conversely turn a good situation into tangible performance gains.