I'll ask him and see if we can find a decent time where we are free for some Q&A action.
We'll it'll be David, not me. Anyone can drive in the midfield every Friday. I'll look to move a lot of the stuff we are used to seeing into EA Answers as we escalate transition.
EA Staff (Retired)EA Staff (Retired)I use a G29 with no assists and I like the handling overall. But getting the power down in the low/medium speed corners and race starts is my only real issue with the game. Hopefully the patch and some more practice will alleviate that issue.
I’m only on my first career race at Bahrain in an Alfa with 70 ai and it so hard to keep up without spinning out. Turns 1,2 and 4 are the most difficult to get right.
Done some testing in Interlagos. I'm sitting in the top 12% of the world which for us is good. We are up +8% on previous years performances,
I done around 80 laps. I experimented with various car setups. Every tweak changed the behaviour of the car.
I could immediately tell upon 1st corner entry and exit whether it would work or not.
I probably have the car balance at around 95%. I truly believe there is another tenth or maybe even two tenths.
But where in the setup is it?
Its like a puzzle. A battle against the permutations.
Its good stuff. Much better than previous titles. No disrespect to David G, he did the previous titles. Over time, he is advancing his craft.
Some people think the handling is broken. And they're entitled to think that. I think its good. I'm lucky, I don't have all these bugs that other people have.
I think pad users will need some help. TC values are weaker this year compared to previous titles. Newcomers might find the going tough. But a wheel user struggling.....WTF?!!
F1 22 gets a paws up from us. Its different, its challenging but rewarding.
The more you play, the better you become. That is certainly true of this game. Players need to get used to the new handling. Its different than previous years but then again that should come as no surprise seen as its a new era in F1.
@DavidG53 As you may have noticed our @Meza994 is very keen and from the year I’ve known him here and on CM forum he has posted countless suggestions that he’s obviously put a lot off time and effort and thought into. To be honest for all I know he may be just be posting tons and tons off nonsense like I tend to. But as I’m all about gameplay. A lot off his ideas: the ones I understand anyway. Would definitely enhance the experience. And unlike others that want the game to be nothing less than a pure hardcore sim. Meza knows and respects cm direction that this is a simcade.
And he’s to polite to ask: But he’s been aching to catch the attention off a dev god such as yourself. Who would be willing to atleast see if he has the right stuff. He will have you head butting your desk often but He will work for free.
@Meza994 Yes I’m this embarrassing in real life also. 😂😀👍
@DavidG53Good that you are already aware of the problem and solution, problem the AI doest like it😂 happens, if the handling model for next year doesnt change too drastically (possibly the exact same groundeffects as they will implement a minimum ride height soo they will probably not have more floor downforce.. famous last words😂) you already know what to change for better balance, but it will obviously change the balance from rear wing always being 10 more than front wing for the default setups, for the low downforce setups it would require more rear angle than compared to front wing angle than at high downforce setups buuut you will play around with the numbers yourself anyway😄
Feels like chanting
🎼Sign him up for codies 🎼 sign him up for codies🎼🙄☺️
sorry been in beer garden for most off day🍺🍻
@DavidG53 @Having now tried most my team starting variations and Finding what R&D upgrades to prioritise that best suit me. And getting past the initial unfamiliarity off heavier cars. I’m now really enjoying the handling physics. I’m to stupid to go to GP mode to see what a redbull, Ferrari handle like. Straight to my team and I won’t be moved.
However I assume due to decades off gaming using a pad or joystick😀. My fingers are either suffer from repetitive strain injury or onset arthritis: to avoid agony im limited to using auto gears. And with torque as it is. It’s a challenge to be sure. And in wet races. In previous times when Lean mode could be selected during race. Made cornering in wet races easier and faster. So was wondering… more as an accessibility option for us oldens. If alternate gear ratio option when using auto would be feasible. Or adjustable final drive?
@DavidG53 With patch 1.06 is it final version for handling, car speeds and also traction update? Thank you
For context for the discussion here I'll just post the following published changes made with patch 1.06. I'll be very interested to read what everyone thinks of how the change feels when driving.
Handling and Force Feedback Deep Dive
Patch 1.06 introduces a selection of handling and Force Feedback changes to F1® 22, alongside other fixes and adjustments, which you can read here.
Below, Handling Group Lead, David Greco, gives you additional insight on today’s tweaks below.
Engine Torque
The engine torque curve has been tweaked slightly, from an almost flat torque of 6,000 - 10,000 rpm to a curve, with a lower Max nm and a progressively increasing torque. This means that the engine has less torque at lower rpm and that power will increase gradually.
Gear ratios
Gear ratios have been tweaked slightly, especially the lower gears, making them longer to help with traction.
Force Feedback
The force feedback has been enhanced by adding the self-aligning torque of the tyres to the overall calculation. Self-aligning torque is very important because its peak always happens before the peak slip angle, and it is a natural torque that the tyre has to centre itself. In a few words it does two things; it allows the force feedback to have a boost in torque around the centre of the steering wheel position, meaning that the forces will be felt crispier and stronger. It also loses a lot of its natural torque past the peak, meaning that the understeer and oversteer can be felt better and sooner.
Tyre temperatures
We noticed that too much heat from the tyres wasn’t influencing grip enough. From today’s patch, running a very high tyre pressure will have a negative effect to grip and lap times, especially after a few laps. We recommend using default or closer-to-default tyre pressures for the race to avoid losing grip because of high temperature, from both carcass and surface.
Finally, the grip from the tyres have not been tweaked, so there will be no difference in Time Trial, as the tyre temps are not enabled.
Source: https://www.ea.com/en-gb/games/f1/f1-22/news/f1-22-patch-106-handling-force-feedback
EA Staff (Retired)
@DavidG53 wrote:
@JanKondlerWe are actually internally discussing the wing 0 0 exploit atm, so we might do another patch to resolve that. Depends how quickly we can do it. I don't want to upset too many people that are already doing league races and might need to revise their setups. So I want to be able to do it as fast as possible, possibly right after this 1.06 patch.
This may be too simplistic but could you simply make the minimum 1-1 rather than 0-0? Unless of course this performs virtually the same.
