I'll ask him and see if we can find a decent time where we are free for some Q&A action.
We'll it'll be David, not me. Anyone can drive in the midfield every Friday. I'll look to move a lot of the stuff we are used to seeing into EA Answers as we escalate transition.
Silverstone last corner(club) is too slippery? Bumpy?
it’s so hard to turn with full throttle unlike real onboard videos. I don’t think that corner is not so much hard to turn But I should very carefully.
It looks like problem about track’s layout or grip not car physics.
Is it only problem of me?
Hi @DavidG53
personally I’d like to say this game is by far one of the best in terms of handling that I have experienced.
However I’ve seen more and more people moaning about the grip all because they can’t get to grips with it and now the handling is changing?????
why??
unless you’ve had feedback from the real f1 drivers on traction of this game I don’t believe it should be changed due to others not getting to grips with it and moaning including esports drivers.
comparing the handling and grip to other games like acc etc I don’t think is valid unless like I say the real drivers are feeding it to you that this years game is wrong.
again want to say thanks for all your work and helpful guidance.
EA Staff (Retired)Yeah have to say handling wise This game is the most fun and challenging it has been in year so very happy to hear that no big changes are planned.
@Dansmotorsport wrote:Hi @DavidG53
personally I’d like to say this game is by far one of the best in terms of handling that I have experienced.
However I’ve seen more and more people moaning about the grip all because they can’t get to grips with it and now the handling is changing?????
why??
unless you’ve had feedback from the real f1 drivers on traction of this game I don’t believe it should be changed due to others not getting to grips with it and moaning including esports drivers.
comparing the handling and grip to other games like acc etc I don’t think is valid unless like I say the real drivers are feeding it to you that this years game is wrong.
again want to say thanks for all your work and helpful guidance.
I'm not moaning about the grip per se. I honestly think the trc settings aren't enough on medium on pad to give the driver enough "assist" as what the mechanic is designed to do.
I don't want the car or track physics altered to make life easier - improvements yes but dumbing down no - as I do believe this is the best we can have in an f1 yet. I just want more assist on med without it being like high?!
Also my old sim name was msportdan so your name kicked off some memories .. thank you
@Dansmotorsport wrote:...unless you’ve had feedback from the real f1 drivers on traction of this game I don’t believe it should be changed...
The changes do essentially fall in the category I believe. Real F1 drivers have commented that traction is harder than real life on the previous two games so given this year it's apparently even harder I'm sure this still applies. Also, in one of the pre-launch videos I remember David saying he'd checked that the modelling change he was thinking of implementing made sense to real F1 teams, who confirmed that it did. I think this was in the Deep Dive video.
I don't really get why people say that traction is harder than last year. It's true that the car can spin in 4th gear, but in the lower gears traction feels much better than F1 2021. I don't really understand why it is that 4th gear seems to be able to spin me out without any notice, but I think it will be manageable once I get a bit more used to it.
My questions to @DavidG53 would be:
Do you acknowlegde that the traction seems (maybe is) easier in gear 1, 2 and 3, but can be somewhat unpredictable in 4th gear? Will the changes to the torque also impact 4th gear?
I've done quite a few laps around Jeddah by now, and turn 3 is a good example. You can barely call it a corner, but just a slight steering input is enough to lose all traction in 4th gear. In F1 2021 I would lose the car at turn 2 when still in second or third gear. Somehow I have zero issues with that phase of the corner in F1 22, but it's the part after that catches me out. In F1 2021 4th gear felt like a safe point to really smash the throttle (in dry conditions), but now I have to be careful in 4th gear.
I'm aware that my problem might not be with 4th gear in particular, but it seems to me like it only happens in 4th gear. Also I saw other people in my league saying the same.
Besides that 4th gear spin I'm really loving the handling so far. Will need a lot more hours to really get it into my system, but I like the direction you and your team are heading.
@zed08je0ot2vFor context, are you using TC?
@Dansmotorsport wrote:Hi @DavidG53
personally I’d like to say this game is by far one of the best in terms of handling that I have experienced.
However I’ve seen more and more people moaning about the grip all because they can’t get to grips with it and now the handling is changing?????
why??
unless you’ve had feedback from the real f1 drivers on traction of this game I don’t believe it should be changed due to others not getting to grips with it and moaning including esports drivers.
comparing the handling and grip to other games like acc etc I don’t think is valid unless like I say the real drivers are feeding it to you that this years game is wrong.
again want to say thanks for all your work and helpful guidance.
Well there was already the feedback from real F1 drivers, anyway even without it now we have the pedal cam of Norris in Silverstone that shows perfectly how he uses the throttle: a bit careful at the beginning but after that he absolutely smashes down the accelerator without any problems
How long can someone keep their job?
22 - release a game with OP AI handeling out of traction into straights. AI also OP after pitstop. When will it be fixed?
21 - release a game with OP AI in fast corners.. said it got fixed but never really did.
20 - since 20 AI in quali and race is a huge difference. The AI also becomes OP in later seasons running upgraded cars at speeds a user cannot.
all of these have been common problems for years, complained about through users, through YouTubers and content creators, yet it happens year after year after year. It should be embarrassing and shameful.
@denniscvd wrote:How long can someone keep their job?
22 - release a game with OP AI handeling out of traction into straights. AI also OP after pitstop. When will it be fixed?
21 - release a game with OP AI in fast corners.. said it got fixed but never really did.
20 - since 20 AI in quali and race is a huge difference. The AI also becomes OP in later seasons running upgraded cars at speeds a user cannot.
all of these have been common problems for years, complained about through users, through YouTubers and content creators, yet it happens year after year after year. It should be embarrassing and shameful.
From what I've seen in this thread, I don't believe David Greco is responsible for the AI.
