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martyforster's avatar
3 years ago

ERS - One Shot Qualifying

I use manual ERS but in one shot qualification it doesn't allow me to use it.   Just seems to be auto but ends the lap with 50-60% instead of using all/most of it. 

 

Does anyone know why ERS locked on one shot,  or if it can be changed? 

 

 

8 Replies

  • drewgriffiths's avatar
    drewgriffiths
    Seasoned Veteran
    3 years ago

    Only 2 ERS settings are available during qualifying, none and hotlap and in one shot qualifying, there wouldn’t be any need to use anything but hotlap since it starts you on the run up to start your lap, so therefore its locked

  • dancrodrigues's avatar
    dancrodrigues
    3 years ago

    @drewgriffiths wrote:

    Only 2 ERS settings are available during qualifying, none and hotlap and in one shot qualifying, there wouldn’t be any need to use anything but hotlap since it starts you on the run up to start your lap, so therefore its locked


    Just a small add that the same goes for full session qualy (Q1, Q2 and Q3). You got a warm-up lap and then a hotlap where ERS is fully drained, as in real F1.

  • martyforster's avatar
    martyforster
    3 years ago
    @drewgriffiths Not sure if we are talkimg about the same thing? I can't press the overtake button at all rather than a setting being locked. So my quali laps are slower than theu would if I was usimg ERS and it ends the lap with 50-60% left (when I would have used it all).
  • ajobling1983's avatar
    ajobling1983
    Rising Ace
    3 years ago
    @martyforster You can only use hotlap or none in qualifying, simple as that. Furthermore you can only use 50% of your battery in one lap.
  • drewgriffiths's avatar
    drewgriffiths
    Seasoned Veteran
    3 years ago

    We are talking of the same thing. Only 2 settings are available in any qualifying, none and hotlap. Overtake is not available and if you’re doing one shot qualifying, it’ll start you from a place where there’s no reason to use anything other than hotlap unless you want to do a Latifi career simulation lol

  • mariohomoh's avatar
    mariohomoh
    Hero (Retired)
    3 years ago

    @martyforster There are a few misconceptions going on here. Breaking it down:

    • The ERS deployment is limited to 4MJ per lap from the MGU-K. The MGU-H has no limit, but you also have no say on its working and its primary function is to do away with turbo lag;
    • The Energy Store – ES has a few regulations caps (Appendix 3 or something from the Technical Regulations has a handy flowchart for that), but the main limit is the weight – about 20 or 25kg. There's no hard capacity limit for the battery, and though official data is hard to come across it most definitely hold more than just 4MJ. Scarbs once said he knew for a fact that the 2016 Mercedes' battery had around 7.8MJ (2.2kWh) capacity. 
      • Bottomline is, you will never deploy 100% of your battery capacity in a single lap, no matter the session. You're limited to the 4MJ per lap via MGU-K.
    • The Overtake button just overrides your current ERS deployment setting to the full 120kW power. So you've got the following ERS modes:
      • None – zero MGU-K deployment.
      • Medium – the standard setting, programmed to give you a net surplus per lap. So there's less than 4MJ MGU-K deployment obviously, and as long as you don't mess with the Overtake button you'll still be charging the battery. 
      • Hotlap – straightforward. Programmed to deploy the full 4MJ MGU-K limit throughout a lap.
      • Overtake – full beans.
    • Overtake mode is disabled on quali sessions. You've got only None or Hot Lap to choose from on full quali sessions. I don't play these short one-shot quali, but it's reasonable for them to disable None mode altogether just to avoid any "god damn I forgot I had fiddled with it" moments in such quick races.

    From your description, the game is working just as intended, mate.

    You can't deplete a full battery charge on a single lap. The percentage and battery icons on the HUD refer to the ES state. You should be concerned about the horizontal bars to the right, as those are showing the deployment (4MJ) and harvest (2MJ) limits per lap: you should be pretty much fully depleting the deployment bar throughout a hot lap, indeed.

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