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PSGL/WOR are the feeder systems and I think Cameron Dowds is the youngest at 13.
With alot of the top guys not playing in protest to nothing being proved one way or the other the Leagues are just moving up the next tier players to have full grids.
Cant blame them really.
@BadMayh3mI can’t blame them for quitting. 2 drivers now under suspension One alleged driver for being unnaturally fast on every track, and another outs himself by accidently showing the cheat on his computer. But nothing is being done. Something has to be done to solve this.
- TotosHeadphones3 years agoSeasoned Ace
@ScarDuck14But I'm not sure if there's any proof though 🤔
- ScarDuck143 years agoLegend
@TotosHeadphonesJust watching Jarnos latest my team video. Think he’s talking about the other guy😂😂😂😂 pic below
- ScarDuck143 years agoLegend@TotosHeadphones That’s why something needs to be done to solve it. I don’t necessarily mean prove they did it just solve the situation or more will do it in the future
- BadMayh3m3 years agoSeasoned Ace@TotosHeadphones This IS the problem.
Ronhard was winning and setting records a YEAR before all this started.....where were all the accusations then and WHY NOW is my question. - TotosHeadphones3 years agoSeasoned Ace
@ScarDuck14I was being a bit sarcastic ☕🐸
@BadMayh3mThe accusations are there because there are plenty of videos showing driving and speeds which technically shouldn't be possible unless there are certain aids being used. Additionally he hasn't really said anything to defend himself other than there won't be any accusations when they move to LAN. Moving to LAN won't disprove the accusations for this year's game because next year, with it likely being a new handling model, if any accused driver not being as fast as they have been can easily hide behind the excuse of not adapting to the new model.
With there being so many murmurs, eSport drivers being shown having cheats on their hard drives, regardless of whether they really are helping Codemasters or not, it shows that there is a lot that we are not seeing and there are eSports drivers not being truthful. There must be some scepticism when looking at all that we've been presented with.
- ScarDuck143 years agoLegend@TotosHeadphones Sorry. You should have said it in a sarcastic text😂
- TotosHeadphones3 years agoSeasoned Ace
@ScarDuck14 wrote:
@TotosHeadphonesSorry. You should have said it in a sarcastic text😂Haha, how do I do that? 🤔
- ScarDuck143 years agoLegend@TotosHeadphones I don’t know <sarcastic voice> 😂
- Nuvolarix3 years agoSeasoned Ace
@BadMayh3m wrote:
@TotosHeadphonesThis IS the problem.
Ronhard was winning and setting records a YEAR before all this started.....where were all the accusations then and WHY NOW is my question.Official telemetry shows how Ronhaar is able to go full throttle before than anyone else, even having lower downforce (more speed at the end of the straights). I don't know if it may be cheating or not, I really hope it is not, it would be phenomenal, but I think the whole community need to know, it needs to be proven also for himself at this point I think. And it needs to avoid such a doubt for the future, starting from F1 23.
Below some interesting video about (by Limitless): - Nellix823 years agoRising Ace
@Nuvolarix want to show that not cheated just do the same times on ps or xbox trick revealed later
- Nuvolarix3 years agoSeasoned Ace
@Nellix82 yes, maybe you are right but I guess is not that easy, meaning it’s not the case of a mediocre driver using +20% grip, so very easy to catch. It would be a very strong driver, perhaps eSports level anyway, using +0,0x grip.
So in PS or Xbox would be able to run for example a Time Trial quite close to his best, and if it’s 2-3 tenths slower how can you be 100% sure about cheating or not? Besides platforms are not exactly identical about handling etc.
Having saying that, I’m confident EA/Codemasters will find a way and fix it for the next game release 😉
- ScarDuck143 years agoLegend
Just been watching Jarnos latest myteam and co-op videos. It’s a sad day for multiplayer when a elite e-sport driver prefers to race against the AI
- Nellix823 years agoRising Ace@Nuvolarix they are certainly strong but you don't get to a second of difference 20% more grip thanks to the cheats in each corner if you add them up it becomes the second that they make look monstrous. sadly they exist in all games .esports the first thing they need to do from my point of view is. without ghost damage also not simulation but they know well that it's all buggy so they play like this. I always see it black for the future at least that fia does not open the license to others too. then you will see how fear comes and you fix it. I hope I have made the idea, greetings
- BadMayh3m3 years agoSeasoned Ace
On Twitter George Morgan has confirmed Ronhaar's PC has been checked for cheats and found to be CLEAN!
It has been further confirmed that the Cheat info CAN'T BE WIPED once used, something about ya cant delete the IP adress.
- ScarDuck143 years agoLegend@BadMayh3m Cheat software doesn’t have to be on the PC. You can use other hardware that the cheat software on and put it through the PC completely undetected.
- 3 years ago@BadMayh3m So we now have the reincarnation of Senna in Ronhaar's body, well at least an electronic version of him?)
- TotosHeadphones3 years agoSeasoned Ace
@ScarDuck14 wrote:
@BadMayh3mCheat software doesn’t have to be on the PC. You can use other hardware that the cheat software on and put it through the PC completely undetected.There's more than one cheat software out there 😉
Fair play, if it has been independently verified good. However, the sceptism will remain when some things just do not add up
- BadMayh3m3 years agoSeasoned Ace@TotosHeadphones The Info is that his PC has been check SIX TIMES by an independent source who has caught other Esport cheaters.
- BadMayh3m3 years agoSeasoned Ace@Blackbird90 Dont know much about Senna but nobody said Jarno was cheating when he did the same things when he was coming up
My personal opinion they're afraid that if he is legit he'll dominate for at least 2 years and then Elite will show up.
Elite is almost as fast NOW.
Lets just say they get rid of Ronhaar, Elite will fill the void. - Ultrasonic_773 years agoHero
@BadMayh3m wrote:
@Blackbird90Dont know much about Senna but nobody said Jarno was cheating when he did the same things when he was coming upIt's not about what happened when 'coming up' but rather what's happening when at the top. It's consistently doing what other eSports drivers don't believe is possible that is the reason for the questions being raised.
- TotosHeadphones3 years agoSeasoned Ace
@BadMayh3mI'm allowed to be sceptical just for the reason @Ultrasonic_77 pointed out. Also, there are other cheat systems that can circumvent computer checks (e.g. be deleted without showing a trace of exposure).
Or is sceptism tantamount to calling someone cheating? - 3 years ago@BadMayh3m Otis is a young lad, but his pace is promising. Definitely deserves to be among esports drivers for the next season.
- ScarDuck143 years agoLegend@Blackbird90 Definitely a start or the future. Consistency needs improving over the course of a race. But that will come with experience
- mariohomoh3 years agoHero (Retired)
Honestly, some of you burn just so much energy over a sport that is still in its infancy (F1 eSports), lacking proper structure and organization, and with just a few properly acting the part with professionalism – flip the latter down and it's written "a good number of kids acting like kids".
There's no harm being skeptical until the organizers, be it the promoters or the actual dev, step up, take the mic and inject some much needed transparency into it all.
Flip the last sentence to the other side and you've got "in a circus brimming full of kids acting unprofessional, I'm not going to waste my time and energy over anyone's saying this or that until someone with proper authority and that can legitimately speak for the organization clears things up".
Goes without saying but being skeptical and straight out lambasting a kid for assuming they're a cheater are completely different. It'd be siding with kiddos all the same, just on the other side of the schoolyard.
- TotosHeadphones3 years agoSeasoned Ace@mariohomoh You raise some very good points. The amount of abuse the driver is getting is unwarranted. I do not endorse that at all. All in all, this detracts from the main issue; organisational issues and decisions on software and anti-cheat software, or lack thereof has allowed this level of suspicion to arise and put question marks on the integrity of the sport.
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