Expected features for F1 23
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@P4st3l1akI will admit I do enjoy a drift in hot lap before progressing to race weekend. If they added drift leaderboards I would have even be tempted to take it more serious.
But other than that: everything except the core (F1&F2) game needs to be removed.
Then they need to forget about adding big new shiny modes. People buy F1 games are majorly F1 fans who only care about driving F1 cars in all the current modes.
What they/we want is simply improving what’s right and good year on year whilst adding features F1 fans who love the tech geek stuff just as much as the racing… to those modes that add to the depth and immersion. Evolution of the game year on year.
Since the beginning off F1 to now. It’s still the same sport. A grid off cars racing to be the fastest over the race distance by Constantly Pushing what is possible.
Only things that change yearly are the regulations. Mostly minor with the occasional big change.
The game would should reflect that
@ScarDuck14 As you say: Everything except the core (F1 & F2) needs to be removed. Well and except of liveries for my team cars etc.
But what I want to say is, that there is so much potential unused in the whole F2 and F1 career. Especially the communication between driver and team, the requirements of a team what a driver should solve and the rivalities between drivers on track, espiecally between team mates could be much more immersive. It kills definitly the atmosphere that you can easily drive for every team, no matter how your f2 season was. The team should also give more realistic goals for a week. Solving this should increase your acclaim. Like having no crashes in monaco, or beating your team mate in a row or having good results in your home GP and so on.
And the team could be much more present during a race. If my teammate is quicker, I want to hear that I should pass him, if he is higher in the season ranking. If my personal rival (the real rival, which is my opponent in the season ranking and not the fake rival I just chose to get acclaim easily 😉 ) is behind me, I want to hear my team saying, what times he is driving and what I should do. And when I drove bad, I want to feel the pressure. I want that the team let me know, that they probably think to look for other drivers. Everything of this is the core of F1 for me next to the racing. F1 is a sport with so much pressure for every driver.
And next to it, the budget cap should finally be implemented in the F1 23 (my team) career. Money is so importent in F1, so it definitly should hurt if I have a car with worn engine parts or even when I crash. This all should have effect on my carreer.
But what I want to say is, that there is so much potential unused in the whole F2 and F1 career. Especially the communication between driver and team, the requirements of a team what a driver should solve and the rivalities between drivers on track, espiecally between team mates could be much more immersive. It kills definitly the atmosphere that you can easily drive for every team, no matter how your f2 season was. The team should also give more realistic goals for a week. Solving this should increase your acclaim. Like having no crashes in monaco, or beating your team mate in a row or having good results in your home GP and so on.
And the team could be much more present during a race. If my teammate is quicker, I want to hear that I should pass him, if he is higher in the season ranking. If my personal rival (the real rival, which is my opponent in the season ranking and not the fake rival I just chose to get acclaim easily 😉 ) is behind me, I want to hear my team saying, what times he is driving and what I should do. And when I drove bad, I want to feel the pressure. I want that the team let me know, that they probably think to look for other drivers. Everything of this is the core of F1 for me next to the racing. F1 is a sport with so much pressure for every driver.
And next to it, the budget cap should finally be implemented in the F1 23 (my team) career. Money is so importent in F1, so it definitly should hurt if I have a car with worn engine parts or even when I crash. This all should have effect on my carreer.
You're right @DonBlanko . I am missing those demands from team you could see in 2018 or 2019 where you had goals to complete.
And if you didn't, you got kicked out of team and hoped someone else would take you on 😉
Also, goals could provide extra cash for perks.
Also, Acclaim is fine to set your price but when rivalry is broken, it makes little sense. Teams have demands when you try to sign up with them but you cannot request anything in return.
I would like to have set of options to request from team when signing up, not only salary 😉
I honestly don’t know why these things Haven't e out into the game. Ai is a huge job to train. Even at its worst it’s still better than anyone else’s. But this game is specific to F1. It doesn’t have to work well across tons off different classes and handling models. GT7. Or add endless RPG elements. No massive open world. Or thousands off real life sports stars images and. Stats to keep on top off. Like FIFA. Had.
Has a couple off dozen tracks 50ish drivers 20ish teams and a few game modes. That have remained almost identical since they were added: Seriously the core game is tiny compared to other games. So why they Havnt taken advantage off what’s infront off them. With the attitude that we may not have tons off content like others games. So let’s make what we have awesome
- @P4st3l1ak Exactly this. The teams should focus on different things. For example Mercedes F1 would never choose a Rookie with almost no acclaim as their second driver. This system also should avoid that mazepin is able to swap to mercedes like we often had in F1 21.
For example could a team want to have a consistent driver who has an amont of X Top 10 ranking in Y races. Or a driver who has a better average quali pace over a season against the team mate. I think of Haas who wanted Nico Hülkenberg because he has so much expierence and especially has a very good consistency over the season in case of Top 10 rankings. All these statistics could be more implemented in the whole career. We often hear team principles saying that they want drivers who have this or who are like this and this and this. Every team is different and has different goals. Williams and Haas focus definitly more on every point and less costs because of crashes then alfa tauri does for example. Alfa Tauri focus much more on the overall pace of a young driver and their qualifying and race pace. Haas is a team with a lot less patience that Williams or Alfa Tauri has for example. Everything of this could make a season much more immersive and would make the teams much more different. @ScarDuck14 yes, you're right, game model seems to be pretty small, compact and unchanging when you boil it down to the actual core.
But as you mentioned in some other topic (I think it was you, sorry if I mixed it up with someone else's comment), there seem to be different dev teams working on yearly releases, with different starting code. So team that fixes F1 22 may not be involved in F1 23 at all.
Also, we don't know what AI training facilities they have built in into their testing procedures. I would hope that in this age of machine learning and deep learning they have something implemented on their side but I can only guess as I lack the information.
But you're their champion and you have their ear so we rely on you same way we do on EA/CM guys in here 😉
- @P4st3l1ak Yes they use two alternate teams but both teams also work on both games. It’s more that once a dev is finished their part off one game they will then move over to the other: basically 2 games are always being worked on.
Unfortunately for me., There’s a huge EA wall that blocks me having any way off pestering Codemasters. Plus I’m the type off fanboy they hate. Cause I’m always here always posting and will always give my honest opinion good or bad and ranting:… I care us the people who pay and play
I’m not their Champion!! I’m your Champion 💪🏆😂 I’m not here for clicks and free stuff or getting a ScarDuck livery added to the game😀 I mean it be nice 🙏 I’m here cause not only do I have to much time and idle thumbs but because I have had unconditional love for Codemasters and My team. And i line helping people. All people
Credit where credit is due the EA Community team are decent people and from what I now know chatting and interacting with them. They are also proper gamers. I know about playing games. They know when where and by who developed pretty much every game I’ve ever played.
Not to mention they always listen and respond to anything I have to say even the nonsense. @P4st3l1ak"So team that fixes F1 22 may not be involved in F1 23 at all."
I think it is totally understandable that CM is splitting their teams for working on the next game and the acutal game in the same time.
But what really shouldn't happen is, that a bug, which was solved in 21 happens again in 22. And so on. I mean, I don't know how it is to work as a game developer but every year a lot of content like cutsence, commentary, graphics, etc. are a copy from the game before. So if they copy things from the game before, they really should make safe, that they don't copy bugs which were already solved.Sometimes I think that building the next game on the game before - every year - should be an advantage in case of bugfixing, because you can develop the core of the game better and better. New bugs only should happen in these parts of the game, which were really changed or added new. So with every game which is based on the game before, the bugs should occure less. But in the moment the opposite seem to be the case. :/ Or am I wrong?
@DonBlanko you're generally correct but bugs can be introduced when you try to improve code or make it more efficient. Re-engineering code often brings mishaps because you may forget about fixes made elsewhere. It also depends what you use as source. It could be that F1 22 was rebuilt almost from scratch apart from some graphic content which was re-used. We know that game physics had to change due to new regulations.
But I understand the confusion and frustration, I would also expect more thorough testing for known bugs, to make sure they don't show up again.
But companies have deadlines and obligations to manage gamers' expectations so, sometimes, it's release first, bugfix next 😉
But I must admit, it may be hard to keep up when releasing games on yearly basis. Most companies have years for development before they push out their games.
(sorry for lots of 'buts' 😉 )
- @P4st3l1ak I don't think F1 22 was rebuilt from scratch. To my knowledge, it's still the same game engine. I did hear that some things from F1 2020 were adopted into the game via the code or something, that's it. The new game engine may come for F1 23, but I'll wait for it to be officially confirmed.
