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@MaegnysHe just gave you a reason why. To get the tyre temps up to their optimum working range. Otherwise you'll start the race straight out from the tyre blankets' temperature, which is 70ºC.
If you don't want to bother with the simulation of official sport like this, just fire up your settings for the session and disable the tyre simulation.
What else do you want from the game?
If you're doing 5 laps, point and shoot quick races, not even bothering with formation laps, then all this simulation of tyre temps and wear and degradation certainly are not for you. No judgement, this short format it is there because it is fun for some people. But it makes no sense to complain about it when you're not setting the game up properly for it.
You can not have your cake and eat it too.
- 3 years ago@mariohomoh If this was planned, can you tell me how people will race each other in ranked lobbies? I want stable, finished game since I pay a lot of money to this game. Every year it's coming with all these bugs and they are using us as subjects.
We are already making formation laps in league races, this is not the case for 5 lappers since it's just for quick racing.- mariohomoh3 years agoHero (Retired)@Maegnys It's been 70ºC since the start of the 2022 season. Not anyone's fault if you do not keep tabs with the sport. Yes, the game should have been released with 70 on day 1, but you're overstretching it by a mile to argue that a change like this is undesirable for catching you "unaware".
That's probably brought up every single race by the commentators when they need to fill in the silence with "trivia".
What's keeping you from disabling tyre sim in short 5 lap sessions? If you had to bring up notepad and edit a config file every time than yeah, what a hassle. But it's in the menus.
Yes, there is a really obvious difference between you and me, mate. I'm a petrol head, I follow the sport and I play simracing. F1 and ACC both. And I know my way around a menu.
I don't play quick 5 lap casual sessions, but even if I did even this old monkey here could easily learn the trick of toggling an extra option in the session settings.
And anyway, it's 70ºC for everyone, not only you. If you still want proper simulation in a quickie 5 lapper, it is still a level playing field.- 3 years ago
@mariohomohAnd yet again you did not reply why they did not open formation lap on ranked lobbies.
It's so obivious that you do not know the importance of tyre temps, even in 5 lappers if you go so hard on tyres you cannot the race against a good rival. So, it's important to know how to push your tires to the limits. If you turn off this option, it's just Time Trial.
And do not talk to me before knowing me. Anyways, this will change for sure, and then you will see this was not meant to be like this, it's just another ignored situation by Codemasters.
- 3 years ago
@mariohomohIt's so obivious that you are casual player tho. I am racing in leagues for 3 years, and I race with my friends in 5 lappers to have fun. If you disable tyre tempatures, it's completely different than normal racing. Even in 5 lappers, tyre tempatures are important.
Yet again, this have not been planned for sure since ranked lobbies are the same. So, before defending codemasters, show some respect. I am playing this game since 2019 and every year the game went in negative way.- 3 years ago
@Maegnys wrote:@mariohomohIt's so obivious that you are casual player tho. I am racing in leagues for 3 years, and I race with my friends in 5 lappers to have fun. If you disable tyre tempatures, it's completely different than normal racing. Even in 5 lappers, tyre tempatures are important.
Yet again, this have not been planned for sure since ranked lobbies are the same. So, before defending codemasters, show some respect. I am playing this game since 2019 and every year the game went in negative way.Boo freaking hoo mate these things are not easy to fix EA have said they are working on it and yes its annoying a d yes it shouldn't have been released, but mate you've been playing 3 or 4 years I've been playing them for 20+ so i have seen worse than this, try f1 2012 you'll be apologizing inside 5 mins
- 3 years ago@GuardianRGR how you compare f1 2012 to 22? it was 10 years ago! The problem is that the game is going backwards in every game since 2020. 2020 was the best game of Codemasters and since EA involved, it's just garbage. We are paying bunch of money for unfinished games since 2021. and if you people still defend EA, nothing will change. I am racing in two different leagues and nobody - NOBODY- is happy with the game. I have never played carreer mode so I only care about online racing, and that part of the game is so bad.
And also force feedback was way better in 2021. I have CSL DD, and to be honest, this game doesn't deserve CSL DD.
- BadMayh3m3 years agoSeasoned Ace@mariohomoh The problem is the game never did this before for 5 lap races. Also the tire temp model is messed up which makes this twice as bad.
Rain races show how messed up they are......lower tire pressures for traction equals lose temps. Raise pressures equals lose traction.
This needs to be fixed asap imo.
Formation lap will not fix this problem.- mariohomoh3 years agoHero (Retired)
@TryonGravity regarding your previous #3, indeed it'd be better if the game just put you straight on flying lap temperature for the ranked sessions.
But the FIA does mandate that the tyre blankets must be limited to 70°C on starting procedure up to the formation lap. After the warm-up lap, the cars will naturally start at whatever temps they managed to get and it's all game. You have clarified your point since the first post, but the issue lies on how the ranked sessions are made, not with them adhering to the FIA regs.
@BadMayh3m that is correct though?
- Lower pressures, lower baseline temps and better traction as long as you keep the temps in the optimum working window
- Higher pressures, higher baseline temps and worse traction
There can still be something wrong with the game, mind you. It's just that there are some misconceptions around the sport going around, and it's important to have them in mind because that's what the game is trying to replicate.
- The pressures you set on the garage are not "final". They're the pressures under the tyre blankets.
- Given that the volume stays the same, the higher the pressure the higher the temperature. That's just the way it is, old PV = nRT physics and P1/T1 = P2/T2
- The more pressure you pack into the tyre, the more "air" it has, and it takes longer for all that material to get hotter or colder.
- After you leave the garage and hit the track, the more heat you work into the tyres the higher the pressure will get. Tyres with low "garage pressures" are more volatile, gaining and losing temps easily; tyres with high pressures are more resilient to losing temps but also tougher to heat and will keep their temps for longer.
- Wet tyres are very different from dry tyres. Different working window, different temps, different "garage" pressures to deal with the wet conditions. When you cannot change compounds but still need to account for a damp track, "garage" pressures (or cold pressures) are set usually a bit higher than usual to give you a higher baseline temp and a better shot at hitting the desired hot pressures with a lower track and ambient temperatures.
By the way, someone posted on /r/F1Technical asking if the temp model of the game was wrong since 1.06.
Edit: @Maegnys it was hard already to take you seriously with how pretentious and how easily you were jumping to conclusions. Now if you really think you hitting the same notes as Kiefer's, I don't even know where to start 🙃
You and Kiefer are not even talking about the same topic.Anyway I said it here that the it would be better if the game just got you straight up to flying lap temps on ranked 5 lap sessions. Just as I did previously in direct response to you here. but looks like you were too enraptured by inflating your "est. 2019" accolade to notice. Everything else about how ludicrous it is to refer to the 70°C update as a joke and demanding realism while not caring for formation laps remains. Nothing changed. And there's nothing here conflicting with what Kiefer tweeted.
- 3 years ago
Thank you very much for clarifying that. I am not too familiar with all the FIA laws, but I thought they regulated the maximum temperature of the electric blankets in 2019 and this year again. I "assumed" that this will lead to maximum tyre temps of 70°C
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