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Thank you very much for clarifying that. I am not too familiar with all the FIA laws, but I thought they regulated the maximum temperature of the electric blankets in 2019 and this year again. I "assumed" that this will lead to maximum tyre temps of 70°C
Teams often give remarks on it on debriefs and the commentators will always mention how this is a factor for how cars struggle with grip leaving the pit lane.
I agree with you, the game should put everyone on flying lap temps on race start for the ranked 5 lap quick sessions. For casual 5 lap lobbies though, it could remain as is as you always have the option to dial down the tyre simulation in the settings.
- pawel5674 years agoNew Ace
Why have only Portimao and China been left as tracks off the F1 calendar and not Germany, Vietnam and short versions of the US,GB,Sahkir and Suzuki tracks? I think it is not fair that only 2 tracks have been added to the game and the other tracks that are in the files you are not adding. If you are adding Portimao and China then also add the tracks : Hockenheimring , Vietnam and short version of USA,GB,Sahkir and Suzuki tracks. All these tracks were in F1 2020 what is stopping you from adding them?
- P4st3l1ak4 years agoSeasoned Ace
@Wollcottthat's shame. I would like to see old tracks, like Sepang or Hockenheim. They were in older versions of the game (I've got all since F 2011 😉 )
And I would like to try even the older ones, like De Nevers Mangy-Cours, Indy Speedway track, Donington or Detroit. But I understand it's lot of coding for tracks with unknown parameters from real life racing. - Wollcott4 years agoNew Ace@P4st3l1ak yeah the biggest issue like i said is the licensing of the circuit and sponsors since they would be added to a "licensed 2022 FIA F1 World Championship game". those tracks are ot featured on this years calendar so there are contracts that have to be made. It looks more like the FOM is keeping it this way and not Codemasters.
- pawel5674 years agoNew Ace@Wollcott Then why have they added tracks from outside the calendar in this edition (Portimao and China ) . As we know the addition of Imola Portimao and Jeddah has revived interest in F1 2021 . They could have still added at least Germany and outer Bahrain . I think the fans would have been happy . FOM if they didn't protest now it will be the same in future editions
- mariohomoh4 years agoHero (Retired)@pawel567 Probably because it is still time and resource consuming to add these tracks with the AI training, and this being an annualized franchise.
Let's say it's around release time and your whole AI department is Dev A, a senior developer, and Dev B, a junior. They're full on working on the AI as a whole and for the DLC tracks upper management decided to include in the roadmap.
The game's released, management puts Dev A to work on the next project and assigns Dev B to work on fixing the AI related issues that are flagged by the players.
If they decided to release more DLC tracks, they'd need to hire Dev C, a good guy who supports Liverpool and likes barbecue. But upper management does not want it, they're adamant about sticking with the annualized model while keeping costs as low as possible even if that entails releasing.
Worse even, Director A had the brilliant idea of creating F1 Life, so now Dev A and Dev B cannot even dare to ask for a little bit more budget as that's compromised.
TL;DR: Codemasters have said a few times already that AI training is complex and can take up to 6-8 months for a brand new track, and the same devs who would be working on that still need to fix AI related bugs and are in a rush to wrap it up and move on to their next game.
Germany, Vietnam etc aren't completely new tracks and relatively recent. Probably would not take that long. Would still be very time and resource consuming, as the AI is not following the same parameters from previous games e.g. new handling. - Wollcott4 years agoNew Ace@mariohomoh then screw the AI and give it to online only 🙂 wouldnt mind that.
- Wollcott4 years agoNew Ace
@pawel567like you understand the issue? for example the advertising boards around the track are usually what it is in real life. now you add a circuit from long time ago and put it in the F1 licenensed game there would be some questions regarding the sponsorship in game. Im not an expert in this case but could imagine things like aramco or pirelli who could perhabs claim they should run the sponsors of the circuit. just a thought but this is basically what we are talking about.
Or simply FOM fearing since its the licensed game that brands could potetially claim rights for exlusive sponsorships in the f1 game.
- pawel5674 years agoNew Ace@Wollcott Significantly these tracks i.e. Germany Hanoi + short track versions (USA, GB,Sakhir and Suzuka) are not as far away as Turkey Sepang. All of these tracks were in F1 2020 (Germany in 2019) so nothing would stand in the way + the sponsors would rather agree as it's also publicity and money for them (FOM had money from it too) and the track owners would be happy that their tracks are popular so just ask FOM if they would agree to it
- P4st3l1ak4 years agoSeasoned Ace
@Wollcott wrote:@pawel567like you understand the issue? for example the advertising boards around the track are usually what it is in real life. now you add a circuit from long time ago and put it in the F1 licenensed game there would be some questions regarding the sponsorship in game. Im not an expert in this case but could imagine things like aramco or pirelli who could perhabs claim they should run the sponsors of the circuit. just a thought but this is basically what we are talking about.
Or simply FOM fearing since its the licensed game that brands could potetially claim rights for exlusive sponsorships in the f1 game.
@Wollcott you seem to be right, it could be a long legal battle between Liberty Media/FOM and EA/Codemasters even if they decided to put up themselves as sponsors around the track, not mentioning if EA/CM tried to find sponsorship outside LM/FOM.
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