F1 22 Grip Levels and Traction

@Padrino78 Don’t even take that bait bro because what you said makes 1000% sense. It’s the same with all games, people who invest time and energy can do without all kinds off “trainingwheels” how I call it.

Has nothing to do with elitism, is just harsh reality that apparently you (and me and others) have experience to go round without TC. And finally they made medium TC way less of a crutch and more punishing when you drive like before.

Haven’t been online yet, just doing some offline to get a feel for the cars and handling model, but if medium TC is really so different I’m going to enjoy blasting away out corners and seeing medium TC users make pirouettes everywehere 🤣

@Padrino78 Do not lump people together here, mate. It is not like if anyone "whining" about traction is just a bad player or people that should be playing with TC on.

There are at least three related topics here:
a) Traction being off
b) TC being imbalanced: TC Medium seems to be too little and TC High makes it basically impossible to spin, taking the fun out of the game
c) FFB being off: perhaps for clipping, perhaps for how it was reworked this time, looks like many people are not getting the traction signal back in their controllers - at least not as clear and as intense as before.

Three issues. All related to traction somehow and that are bound to pop up in all this discussions.

Issue "a" was already acknowledged by the devs and the head of physics and handling department already said will improve once the expected patch that will make the transmission more realistic is released. So "whining" about it is moot, people in the know have long admitted and long been working on addressing it by making the physics more realistic and do away with the instantaneous power output at the wheels whenever there's any throttle input from the player.

Issue "b" is the one you're ignoring and why your "why just don't play with TC" suggestion is out of touch. As per their reports, TC do not follow the same overall balance from previous games and they cannot find a level that suits their needs.

Let's keep the "whining" about assists making people too fast (they do not) out of it. There are tons of ways to tune TC - and ABS for that matter. Devs can tune how early on the tyre grip vs load sensitivity curve the assist is activated, and they can tune how intense will be their effect once it kicks in.

Making changes to how the assists work do not automatically make the game unfair by making "assists faster than no-assists".

Issue "c" is still unclear, if a problem on the end user cranking up the settings too much or if indeed the game needs to be patched. The latter could probably be the case, given other unrelated reports of the FFB having issues in other aspects.

@mariohomoh Best post of this issue I've read yet. Dead on