How long until AI is fixed?
I've spot a few replies about the forums RE the CM team is working on fixing the AI straight line speed bug. Has anyone seen anywhere that it says how long they anticipate this will take? I do find ...
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@joshhhhmcgillActually there are very few racing titles that have very good AI, as AI is one of the most difficult things to implement. The F1 games have some the best AI overall in the sim racing genre, when there are no glaring issues as in this case. The only other sim racing titles that have very good AI are RF2 and RaceRoom, and that's it.
ACC for example has very passive AI, very slow overall, with drastic pace variability between circuits. AMS2 has become better with patches but it still has huge issues in slow corners, and the AI is often oblivious to what the player is doing. Assetto Corsa varies drastically from car to car and mod to mod, and it behaves too mechanically with cars mostly standing all on rails. Gran Turismo has very passive AI and as AC their pace varies drastically from car to car, they are also too robotic, with drivers not carrying different personalities. And so on and so forth.
@Amioram Key difference is most of those games, particularly GT has far better online experiences and therefore doesn’t need to lean on their AI development as much.
The F1 series online experience isn’t good enough and hasn’t been for many years. Imo without a strong online experience the AI need to be near perfect, and again I’m not disputing how hard that is.
The F1 AI is great when it comes to attacking/defending, especially this year it’s actually a challenge when overtaking but to have game breaking advantages is a deal breaker with the AI no matter how many positives they have.
The F1 series online experience isn’t good enough and hasn’t been for many years. Imo without a strong online experience the AI need to be near perfect, and again I’m not disputing how hard that is.
The F1 AI is great when it comes to attacking/defending, especially this year it’s actually a challenge when overtaking but to have game breaking advantages is a deal breaker with the AI no matter how many positives they have.
We are talking of AI here, the fact that other titles can or not have better online, or that they can prefer to undergo the AI to focus more into other aspects doesn't change the reality of the situation.
Nobody heard of Geoff Crammond's F1 games since we are talking about AI here? The guy was a legend in programming AI for his game and you are going to tell me that in 2022 no one can't do a top quality realistic AI for a racing game or it is too hard? I call that BS.
My bet is that these Publishers/Developers don't want to hire experienced professional programmers that know their stuff in AI programming etc. A lot of these top programmers are very smart with PhD's in Physics in some cases. It's all about the $$$$, good quality experience programers cut into the companies profit margin.
This is not new news, it's been like this for a couple of decades now and not just for racing games, sports game and other games that require decent human behavior AI is severely lacking in today's games. A lot of these AAA game companies hire much less experience programmers coming out of college for so little pay/money or they outsource from other places/countries. So, as the saying goes, garbage in, garbage out unfortunately.
@F1GUZMAN wrote:Nobody heard of Geoff Crammond's F1 games since we are talking about AI here? The guy was a legend in programming AI for his game and you are going to tell me that in 2022 no one can't do a top quality realistic AI for a racing game or it is too hard? I call that BS.
My bet is that these Publishers/Developers don't want to hire experienced professional programmers that know their stuff in AI programming etc. A lot of these top programmers are very smart with PhD's in Physics in some cases. It's all about the $$$$, good quality experience programers cut into the companies profit margin.
This is not new news, it's been like this for a couple of decades now and not just for racing games, sports game and other games that require decent human behavior AI is severely lacking in today's games. A lot of these AAA game companies hire much less experience programmers coming out of college for so little pay/money or they outsource from other places/countries. So, as the saying goes, garbage in, garbage out unfortunately.
It is crazy how many people think back of the great Grand Prix Series,also in other Forums. Those games are still competetive when it comes to gameplay,if not still better. I started with GP2 back in 1995. I still like to watch YT Videos from those games. Sick how a series which is 20 years old still has better Features than actual games. I think this would be a nightmare for EA uf GP5 would be announced. Pure racing game,no Shops or anything. Like in the good old days.
