OPTION to Force Cockpit in multiplayer?
Is this finally going to be in F1 2022? It's the one thing I'm waiting on being included before buying. Essentially, it's necessary to create a fair and equal playing field for league racing. Emph...
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Different views absolutely have a huge advantage. They give you unrealistic peripheral vision, let you see apexes, walls, opponents, so much easier, etc.
TRL Limitless posted a great video about why esports need this a few weeks ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQWlrpt-oH4
I used to run/own a huge sim racing website with hundreds of F1 201x leagues over the years, and there was probably nothing more discussed than cockpit vs other views, and we jumped through hoops to make the top championships compliant with this rule which is exactly why it just needs to be a optional feature.
There's a reason that all serious sims only allow cockpit view.
But I wouldn’t really say that F1 is a serious sim it’s still a simcade
True, but I don't really want to make this isn't really about arcade vs sim. It's just about giving leagues and esports some more legitimacy, or if you prefer, even just giving racers something they want to create the level playing field in the leagues they want to race in. An option hurts no one, but it does open up the title to more fans and more purchases. I had a long list of things I was waiting for this title to have in place before buying again and running leagues again, and this is now the very last one! Please let it be in this year's game already. Please? 🙂
- @moogleslam Oh if you are talking visually then I agree it’s like the 3 worst camera to choose due to the lack of the vison. In terms pace however it’s as good as any other camera
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@moogleslamOh if you are talking visually then I agree it’s like the 3 worst camera to choose due to the lack of the vison. In terms pace however it’s as good as any other cameraI'm struggling with why better vision doesn't give a speed advantage, particularly consistently across multiple laps.
I've started using cockpit cam recently. Maybe in time I'll be able to drive identically to using TV pod but I'm not convinced.
Adding this as an option seems a reasonable request to me.
@moogleslamcan't think of a single reason not to agree with an optional filter or rule to force cockpit view in leagues and perhaps even in lobbies, honestly. As you said, it's optional, extra.
Just the whole "it's more realistic" argument that I find really unappealing.
We've got people playing on a couch with their TV set competing with people with triple screens and proper simracing rigs. We often see people standing behind cockpit as the only real way to play F1 as if the whole player base had a level playing field, with proper setups and proper settings.
It also feels kind of skewed. Real drivers can only sit in their cockpit, yes, but they also get to use their whole field of view and their "popometer", the single best FFB device mother nature ever came up with. We don't get any of that with a flat screen. I'd rather call it an artificial handicap over the holy grail of realism.
Saying that players in TV Pod or whatever get an unfair advantage also doesn't stick with me, personally. Surely it is different, a different point of view with different tradebacks, but it's not like every good player had a given PB with cockpit view and magically dropped 2s when switching to TV Pod.
That said, Codies' F1 are the only (!) games I don't play on cockpit camera. ACC and Gran Turismo (Sport and 7 both) are my main other racing titles and I play them all exclusively on cockpit - even formula cars in GT7! Maybe I'll give it another go on F1 22, let's see.
Again, I'm all for an optional rule to enforce cockpit view in multiplayer. It's just the "more realistic"/"unfair to play otherwise" that I find unappealing.This request has nothing to do with realism.
It is simply about creating a 100% level playing field, and improving the integrity of leagues/results.
Views such as T-Cam/TV Pod absolutely give an advantage in pace over a race distance. While theoretically, you can create the same lap times in cockpit view, and some do, it is so much easier to be consistent in other views.
We had a driver switch from cockpit to T-Cam, just to give himself a better chance at winning a championship, and he did.... multiple championships. This was a guy coming from iRacing, who was hardcore sim racer!
