OPTION to Force Cockpit in multiplayer?
Is this finally going to be in F1 2022? It's the one thing I'm waiting on being included before buying. Essentially, it's necessary to create a fair and equal playing field for league racing. Emph...
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BarryBL
Codemasters Team
Codemasters TeamTo play devils advocate here, shouldn't players be able to play how they want?
I play in cockpit cam (edited) with some assists, I know others who are quick in T-Cam, far chase cam, quick on pad, even quick on a keyboard. I personally never feel cheated by losing to someone who plays in a different camera, or on different assist levels. As long as the racing is there and the combat is fair, its more a niche request.
Personally I'd rather have a competitive environment where everyone is enjoying playing the game their way and competing together.
@BarryBL To play devils advocate to your devils advocate,
Couldn’t the same argument be used regarding assist restrictions? There’s options to lock any/all assists to off so why can’t there be an option to lock the camera to a certain setting?
- @IGNxLegendZz This. T-cam is also an assist. It doesn't directly make you faster, but neither does the racing line. But the racing line can be turned off in a lobby, but t-cam can't.
The only thing I can think off is that even with cockpit cam forced, you can still gain massive advantage by changing the settings to make your field of view more like T-cam. If they would force cockpit cam, they'd have to force default cockpit cam without any optimization options. If an even playing field is the real goal, that is.click link for video tested by Marcel Kiefer who is convinced ABS makes you faster because you can brake way later without penalties.
i tried some online, and me without ABS trailbraking get divebombed by ABS abusing people who then ACTUALLY MAKE THE CORNER TOO!
plus the TT times don’t lie. It’s like christmas how it lights up with ABS
- BarryBL
@IGNxLegendZz , fair comment, accept your respectful response, thanks.
My counter counter counter (if you will :P ) is that its harder to adapt camera angle than assist level. Also, if, for example, ranked was limited with a force cockpit, how many people would truly play this and see it as a valuable addition? Honestly, not too many. If anything, a hindrance to joining the session.
Now, possibly in a League format with established core of players who all want it, sure. But you could just force it in the league rules if done externally. From my experience, I wouldn't join a lobby where I can't play on my camera settings, regardless of game.
Finally, where does it end? FOV? Angle? Something will always appear more 'META' than something else.
- @BarryBL I see your point, it’s always hard to balance things and there will always be people who are happy/unhappy.
Personally, I wouldn’t force cockpit for ranked, just like assist restrictions aren’t forced in ranked. I just think a setting in custom lobby options wouldn’t be a bad thing. This would also help with those leagues who do have cockpit only rules to prevent anybody from cheating because currently you can only take peoples word for it.
As for your last point, where does it end? That’s a good question, but surely something is better than nothing at all. Perhaps there could be multiple options like there is for the ‘car setup’ lobby options (Full, preset only and fixed). So you could have cockpit and say cockpit default. The former fixing you to cockpit but with any setting, the latter fixing you to cockpit but with default settings.- BarryBL
@IGNxLegendZz Yeah can agree, always trusting the other league racers to respect the rules. From my experience, most league racers are a community within a community and respect rules regardless.
I guess the overall point would be pure audience for it as its simple in theory to add and remove things in-game, but its justifying the resource vs reward for the player.
Respectful discussion over a point though. Kudos, lot of time for that.
