Porpoising
We're four races into the season and porpoising is still a major issue and so looks to be with us for much if not all of the season I'd say. So I wonder if porpoising will be represented in the game,...
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@Tibi2199 Err no i know what im talking about lol
Literally all ive done is roughly double the downforce and i would get porpoising from 280-290kph onwards and getting horrible at 310-315 kph stopping the car from further acceleration..
And guess what, lowering the downforce and increasing the ride height worked immediately to cause the porpoising to appear later.. nobody knows what the teams are missing and that their windtunnels and simulations are not perfect is also common knowledge..
Why is it so hard to believe that Codemasters accidentally got their physics somewhat right? Nobody said its a perfect simulation of porpoising, actually really not thaaat close, especially with the development rate and vibration rate but why the hell should they have scripted porpoising into the 2021 game when the teams didnt even know its a thing😂
Literally all ive done is roughly double the downforce and i would get porpoising from 280-290kph onwards and getting horrible at 310-315 kph stopping the car from further acceleration..
And guess what, lowering the downforce and increasing the ride height worked immediately to cause the porpoising to appear later.. nobody knows what the teams are missing and that their windtunnels and simulations are not perfect is also common knowledge..
Why is it so hard to believe that Codemasters accidentally got their physics somewhat right? Nobody said its a perfect simulation of porpoising, actually really not thaaat close, especially with the development rate and vibration rate but why the hell should they have scripted porpoising into the 2021 game when the teams didnt even know its a thing😂
@Meza994 I didn't even say they should've scripted porpoising into the 2021 game, not sure where you got that from. Codies might be able to script the porpoising physics into the game, but still, it won't be properly simulated, that is what I'm saying, and I'm fine with that. Teams will also most likely fix porpoising until July 1st, so adding porpoising into the game would be waste of development time, that could be used for something better
- @Tibi2199 I think you dont understand what i did lol i had genuine porpoising by my method which affected the cars steering and acceleration a lot.. Like porpoising for real, only a bit too fast in its development (starting late and getting heavy within short time) which is likely due to the suspension working too fast with the 2021 cars..
I dont share your "optimism" that teams will have completely fixed porpoising till July first.. Teams have very limited options to get rid of it besides ride height. RB had fairly bad porpoising in Miami compared to the other races and RB has the lowest downforce from the top teams, so less forces causing the porpoising.. I expect it to be still part of the setup for 2023 to find the right balance just with a bit less porpoising. - @Meza994 Ah okay, yeah we'll see the state of porpoising then later this year. But is there a video of the experiment you did in the 2021 game? I would be curious what it looks like, without changing files etc. and only making setup changes for the porpoising
- @Tibi2199 No its not only making setup changes but its doubling the potential downforce.. Nothing else, only an increase to downforce just as if you go to Monaco, there you get increased downforce too in the 2021 game, but i increased the downforce by much more in order to make it happen. It also appeared in the 22 game but they changed the physics so that the Diffuser doesnt stall as much in order to prevent the porpoising in the game. It just looks like in the video posted previously.. It is not possible to achieve porpoising in F1 2021 with normal setup work as there is not enough force sucking the car down without modifying at least the downforce.
- @Meza994 ah I see, I misunderstood you then. Yeah well they announced porpoising won't be coming to the game anyways, so doesn't matter now then. It would be cool though, but would be a lot of work IF they would want to make it as good as possible. But I think we should be happy with the amount of changes they made to make the game more realisitc/immersive, like handling model, tyre model etc. F1 2021 had barely any changes compared to this
- @Tibi2199 Well its not gonna make it into 22 which is totally understandable but im currently working out a way they could implement it into the gameplay (physics is easy for them) should it be a part of 2023s setup work for the teams..
Yeah they did quite a bit but i still think the cars are too unstable.. My personal feeling is too much front grip at low speed (oversteery) and too little ground effects downforce developing at higher speeds (top drivers even spinning in 6th gear 200kph out of stowe.. Will only be able to confirm this specific case in July but even in Jeddah (low downforce) Perez went full throttle in 5th gear 180 kph in Turn 17.. But we will see, might aswell be too much front end for higher speeds which would make it more stable but slower laptimes (if corrected)..
