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Hempyjr
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3 years ago

Re: Should France Return to the F1 Calendar

I prefer Magny-Cour over Las Vegas or Miami anytime. Like @ScarDuck14  said, it's stupid and sad to see new street circuits into the calendar when we have so many historic and purpose built race tracks which are not included. I know only money matters, but like Verstappen said in some interview, at some point it's beyond "just money" and have to choose the right thing (in this case proper and historic race tracks).

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  • Cpayne32's avatar
    Cpayne32
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    3 years ago
    @Hempyjr Yeah well said. They clearly need to listen to the fans. They did that when they had the audacity to try and take Spa off the calendar. There are tracks you can get away with that but never spa. Its like if they tried to remove Silverstone they would basically be ripping the heart of the sport
  • ScarDuck14's avatar
    ScarDuck14
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    3 years ago
    @Cpayne32 They almost did remove Silverstone. Until Silverstone updated its facilities.

    Along with Monza it’s Most attended GP race on the Roster I believe. Most fanatical F1 fans anyway. Spa much loved by fans.
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    Hempyjr
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    3 years ago
    @Cpayne32 Definetly they should listen to the fans. Sadly, i don't know how long Spa and Monaco will last considering their last attempts before these historic tracks will be replaced with some street circuits in probably another arabic country or USA.
  • ScarDuck14's avatar
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    3 years ago
    @Hempyjr Personally I won’t be to sad to see Monaco go. Cars are to big and to fast for it. Unless there’s rain it’s pretty much a procession.
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    3 years ago
    @Hempyjr Monaco i think needs to go. It offers nothing in terms of actual racing. Rarely do you see an on track overtake and if there is a safety car mid race it ruins any change of a good race.

    Spa i can see being around for a few more years at least.

    @ScarDuck14 Monza will never go unless they try to replace it with Imola
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    Hempyjr
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    3 years ago

    @Cpayne32 @ScarDuck14 Yeah Monaco doesn't offer too much, but offers more than Jeddah, watching last night race, after the safety car i was almost naping, it was that boring. I would bring back into the calendar Magny-Cour, Malayzia, at least one track from Germany, Jerez maybe even Kyalami in a second and take off tracks like Jeddah, Miami or Las Vegas, the last one will be another boring street race with 3 corners...

  • Cpayne32's avatar
    Cpayne32
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    3 years ago
    @Hempyjr That was the best race in a while i would say. The changing conditions really added to the drama
  • Nuvolarix's avatar
    Nuvolarix
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    3 years ago

    I love Magny Cours, more than 20 years ago one of my favourite tracks, sweet remembers of WR ❤️

  • Whereas I totally agre with you guys regarding the classics tracks plus some that aren't classics but still deliver great races I'm afraid that won't ever happen again.


    @Hempyjr wrote:
    @Cpayne32Definetly they should listen to the fans.

    Quoting spefically this part of the discussion, in my point of view, F1 is listening to the money. During the brazilian broadcast this sunday was speculated tha Saudi could receive a 2nd race each season, this one to be held in Riyadh, due to Aramco being its main sponsor. Also, with F1 willing to enter the US market at any cost, we might expect less of the classic european tracks that we are used to.

    Do I like it? No.

    Do I understand it? Yes. At the end of the day it's business.

    I have nothing against helding races in middle-east and USA but I feel like it's misbalanced when we think of tradicional places and markets for motorsport. This year we'll have 4 races in middle-east (Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Abu Dhabi) and 3 in USA (Miami, COTA and Vegas) almost 1/3 of the calender goes to places where F1 wants to be but where the majority of the fan base isn't.

    Or I am just old enough to look at it and don't recognize it as F1 I grew up watching.

  • ScarDuck14's avatar
    ScarDuck14
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    3 years ago
    @dancrodrigues Way back when. F1 rules were that one race per country. Except for the European GP which would change yearly.
  • Cpayne32's avatar
    Cpayne32
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    3 years ago
    @dancrodrigues Yeah its a shame they are listening to the money. I think a second Saudi race is going to rub the wrong way especially with how vocal drivers were in the past about racing in Saudi (im aware last year was because of the attack nearby).

    The issue when you listen to money is it always involves the words street circuits. You look at the calendar now and there are 7 street circuits on the calendar: Saudi Arabia, Australia, Azerbaijan, Miami, Monaco, Singapore and Vegas.

    Most of those tracks are no longer fan favourites but as you said, money speak louder than track action
  • @Cpayne32And yet, F1 is bigger than ever.
    How hard is to find the perfect balance - again, I'm not saying they are wrong, I can get them. It just isn't familiar.

  • Cpayne32's avatar
    Cpayne32
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    3 years ago
    @dancrodrigues Yeah its a tough balance for sure but often the street circuits cost the general public significantly more as companies will skyrocket prices specifically for that even which i know is standard practice but still wrong

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