Re: Super Fast AI Final Lap

@DRudd13 Hadt given it a thought but I’m 4th ranked team and not far behind the 3 infront and Havnt had a single fastest lap. And when I check my fastest lap is always a second off from the ai

@ScarDuck14 Basically a point you'll never win unless it rains the last few laps lol. Unless you have the best car in myteam and by a fair way too. Or a Red Bull or Ferrari in Grand Prix mode, and even then it will be a hard feat to pull off.

@Hansenhaus You're doing it correctly, but it depends on the difficulty settings. If you needed to push like hell only to keep up with the AI during their mid-race phase (where they're at their slowest), then the setting is probably too high, you'll get swallow up by them during their pushing phase (Opening laps / final lap / in-lap / out-laps)

Tune it down to the point where you can keep pace with those on similar strategy and performance even when managing your car, then you'll be able to counter them nicely on those fast laps without feeling getting eaten up.

At the moment I'm on 90-95 for MyTeam mode, 100 for GP (post v1.08 patch)

@Man0maN13000 Jarno opmeer calls it unlimited ers his co op teammate calls it ai hulk mode or something.. I call it ai excite mode but whatever we call it.. it’s definitely a thing that needs to stop.

@Man0maN13000 Tires aren't necessary always dead on the last lap, it all depends on the strategy.

Technically if the tire condition is still above the line where its grip will start to fell off a cliff, you might actually be faster on the last lap due to the car being at its lowest fuel weight.

@Apophis-STR This

I just did a rewatch of the Race in 30s from 2021 with my kid, and I saw a few examples of the fastest lap coming on the last lap, and funny because of this thread specifically I noticed that while it was usually a guy who did a late pit specifically to go for fastest lap, that was not always the case.

So there may be an issue with the AI being too fast on the last lap or having the fastest lap on the last lap too often is an issue, but it is not unrealistic for the fastest lap to come on the last lap even in circumstances where there wasn't a late pit strategy to go for fastest lap.

@ScarDuck14 I want to cry

@Apophis-STR But please stop finding all the excuses at the games, so for you ALL the AI go faster at the end because ALL save their tires and make late pit stops and that at ALL the races?
Let's be serious about playing F1 21, 20 and 19 because never ALL the AI in ALL the last laps of ALL the races took me 1sec to 1.5sec in the last lap.
My strength has always been to be fast and preserve my tires and suddenly listen to you, they are all better than me in this area.
I imagine that for the AI ​​which comes out of the pits with cold tires but which goes almost 1 second faster than me, your analysis on this too?

Sorry but I'm tired of finding excuses for games, since I play F1 I think 2018, for me it's the worst F1 game I've played, I'm not even sure that in December it will be repaired when I see all the big problems encountered by players who are not yet listed as bugs

@Apophis-STR https://answers.ea.com/t5/General-Discussion/Things-that-still-MUST-be-fixed-adjusted-or-improved-on-F1-22/m-p/11755422#M12905
Here is a good analysis of the tire problem.

@Man0maN13000 I agree with all that you said and also with most of the people here - and BTW, thanks for mentioning "my" post above and I'm glad a good number of people are reading it and contributing with the discussions and trying to help the devs to make this game better!

About this particular issue of the AIs getting super fast on the final laps, this is what I have to say:

Yes, it was already happening on F1 2021 and that always bothered me..

The difference is that on F1 2021, the AIs would get their fastest laps at the end of the race, especially on Hard tyres, no matter how 'dead' they were supposed to be (in terms of grip/performance), even if they should also be lighter in terms of fuel (but so is the player at that point of the race, right?), but the thing is: they used to get faster - and sometimes up to 1 or even 2 secs faster than their previous laps during the stint, but most of the time they would not necessarily get the Fastest Lap.

Now, on F1 22 the same thing is happening, BUT.. they are ALSO getting the Fastest Lap (and the extra point) because it also has to do with their tyre temps "management", where they can literally keep their temps constantly on 92ºC throughout their entire stint, always having perfect grip/performance and very low tyre wear (especially compared to the player)..

So, when you put these 2 'skills' together, the AIs can easily get the fastest laps at the very end of the races.. I mean.. if you have a lot more grip than the player and some really exaggerated boost from 'saving ERS'.. BAM, there you go..

Long story short: it's just BS anyway and it shouldn't happen.

The devs need to fix the AI tyre temps issue and ALSO reduce a bit this big 'boost' they get at the end just because of ERS saving/deploy - that's also super exaggerated..

As @ScarDuck14 said, it's just not 'organic', or 'natural' and it's also obviously not 'realistic' or fair - and yes, it's ok to be challenged by the AIs and even to lose races because they beat you fair and square, but the way it is now, it only makes you feel cheated, over and over again..

It's NOT a matter of telling the players to "drive better" or "change your driving style ", because NOTHING changes the fact that the AIs obbey different rules and game's laws of physics than the human players.

The AIs NEED adjustment & improvement in SO many different aspects, simply because they're pretty bad as they are now - this is a fact.

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And oh, let's also not forget the 2 secs faster they can go on Quali sessions as well.......... (also happens since previous games, F1 2021, F1 2020, etc - it feels like they did NOT take the 'party mode' away from the AIs after F1 2019 - and I'm not even joking.. it's probably still in the game code, although the player doesn't have it anymore - but that's another topic.. I know..)