Product: F1 22Platform:Sony Playstation 4Summarize your bug Not sure if it’s a bug but I’ve noticed the AI barley get affected by tyre wear. Russel had 40+ Lap old medium tyres and I had 40+ old hard tyres as we pitted on the same lap and he was still pulling/keeping pace until around the last 2 laps when it didn’t matterWhat is your 16 digit Report Code? NoneWhich area is the bug/glitch in? Driver CareerHow often does the bug occur? Often (50% - 99%)Did you have cross-play enabled? YesSteps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Play the game What happens when the bug occurs? AI Not affected by tyre west What do you expect to see? Tyre life and strategies having purpose

@DRudd13 On fast tracks we humans seem to be faster. And slow tracks the ai have the pace.I’m only average, due bad eyes bad fingers and bad age.😀 but I know most off the tracks intimately. So where I lack overall pace I’m as consistent as a metronome.Why we faster on fast tracks. Ai is slow into and through corners. And with less slow corners compared to fast it can’t dominate us over a lap.Slow tracks lots off tight corners for it to power out off and average racers using a pad are lambs to the slaughter

@ScarDuck14 I still see them having a spin here and there, but not as frequently as they did in earlier editions.But as expected, the workaround (surface only) worked in GP mode around Belgium on 75, and was more reflective in what I had managed to do in a driver career with carcass* and surface.I've provided all the information I can on this subject. So I'm definitely dropping it.

I brought this up after patch 1.05 and was told they definitely do, but since then i believe they have modified it, but I think it is still a problem today 1.09. I think it might be because they always have perfect tyre temps. Even when they power out of the slow corners with perfect traction, their temps are perfect, so the wear is minimal every lap. Which by then end of a long stint is a huge advantage. And my findings are all on Grand prix mode. Don't want to start a career when it's clearly not working properly.Edit. Should have been patch 1.08https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/AI-gaining-Massive-Speed-on-the-straights/m-p/11656702/highlight/true#M4472

@NicoNivoSo to bump this up, and shed more light on my findings. Today I've been on GP mode on Xbox, around Hungary as Mick Schumacher. Qualified 2 tenths ahead of K. Mag. And for the first 3/4 laps of each stint could at least match him, maybe slightly faster. But after that he passes and pulls away and I'm just trying to keep the baying pack behind me, as if tyre wear hasn't had an effect on them at all. by the end of an 18 lap race, K.mag finished 20 seconds in front.So It's either they aren't affected by tyre wear or the player car doesn't lose any weight while burning of fuel, in my humble opinion.And before anyone replies saying it's not, please do this test for me. Should only take 30 mins.Go to GP, set the race to Hungary, pick any team you want but try and get the level, so you qualify around your TM in short qualifying. 25% race distance. Use the default set-ups (which I'm still assuming the AI uses) in a clear session. And tell me what you think.

Today, I've done the same test with the same AI & settings, only changing my set-up to mine. I qualified a full second ahead of K-Mag. But the same thing happened after 3/4 laps of going faster than him at the start of each stint, he then starts closing the gap. And instead of beating my TM comfortably, he finished the race only 2 seconds behind.I also ran it over a 50% race and the same thing happened, My teammate beat me, but that's because I had a 5-second penalty. Without that, I was only 2 seconds ahead of him again.Edit. If you have your rearview mirror on, you can see how shiny their tyres are compared to yours, even using the default set up.

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DRudd13
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
So I'll post the GP pictures first, then the Driver Career 2nd.
Qualifying all cars were around a second faster than GP mode, Upgrades and driver boosts will be the reasoning behind that. GP mode I did 1.18.9 in driver career I did 1.17.3. 1.6 quicker. Pole was 0.8 quicker and teammate was 1.2 quicker. So a solid 6th again in a Haas.
DRudd13
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
In GP mode, the leaders pulled away, and I was forming a train with slower cars on my heals. The leaders didn't pull away as rapidly in the driver career, nor did I have a train form or feel at any point they had better tyres than me.
DRudd13
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
Belgium is the real proof. It decided Haas was the 2nd worse car, but still anywhere between 11th-18th would be a good qualifying if I was on the right level, which I know I’m not
DRudd13
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
For qualifying, I went 1.8 quicker than GP mode, 2nd was 1.9 quicker and my teammate was 2.2 quicker.
DRudd13
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
In the GP race, my advantage in qualifying didn't transpire in the race and max won
In the driver career race, my advantage did convert to race pace and I won. Had a 4/5 second gap most of the race till the last lap.
So I still believe it's tyre related, but this is the last I'll mention it. But if someone is complaining about AI, find out what mode they're on.
So my conclusion is if you're playing My Team, Driver Career or the Weekly Event. Go with last year's AI. If GP, you may as well be guessing.
DRudd13
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
I know I said no more posts. But just been watching this guy on YouTube. Clearly he's a good player even with controller. And he expects to get first when he started.
It's almost like his tyre's go off compared to the AI after 4 laps of every stint, even though he started on the more durable tyre.
ScarDuck14
Legend
3 years ago
@DRudd13Because the AI isn’t effected by tyre temps. I’m assuming it’s just their carcass temps. Maybe surface temps as well but theres no way off telling as viewing the Ai cockpit Cam only displays carcass temps. So I changed temps from carcass and surface to surface only. And my carcass temps were exactly the same as ai throughout an entire race.

So I figure. if you can’t beat them join them and I’ve been running with surface temps only. Benefit means as surface temps quickly cool back down to optimal levels on straights. So I can run with higher pressures which means less tyre wear. Just finished Australia 50% with soft/medium strategy. Both sets off tyres didnt wear beyond 60%. That was with maxed tyre upgrades.

Not ideal but it does put you on a level playing field/track with the au and also mean I can turn up ai difficulty which makes for better on track gameplay.
DRudd13
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@ScarDuck14
As a workaround, that will possibly work, and I will do 1 final test on GP mode to try it. But the fact I don't need to do it in any other game mode surely proves that something in the coding for GP mode isn't right and needs at least investigating by EA/CM. But it's not even on a list. And when I first mentioned it to Dave G, He just told me that the AI were affected by tyre wear the same as the player.

But as I've said earlier I'm done with GP mode, I just think that like I was close to doing, other players can't make any sense of the game in GP mode. Get frustrated and have just stopped playing
ScarDuck14
Legend
3 years ago
@DRudd13 I think the ai were initially affected by temps. But was possibly changed after one off the early patch’s. As on release Ai cars frequently missed corners and crashed. Then all off a sudden they stopped crashing.
DRudd13
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@ScarDuck14
I still see them having a spin here and there, but not as frequently as they did in earlier editions.
But as expected, the workaround (surface only) worked in GP mode around Belgium on 75, and was more reflective in what I had managed to do in a driver career with carcass* and surface.
I've provided all the information I can on this subject. So I'm definitely dropping it.