Using telemetry to refine setups
Hi all, I need some help with understanding and analysing telemetry. I’ve recently got and set-up a telemetry app to mainly help me look at tyre surface and carcass temps so I can set pressu...
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@Monzstar83 wrote:
@dancrodrigues wrote:Hey Monzie, long time no see mate.
Been following this thread and my question is: can we translate all this data into the somewhat limited setup options in F1?
Please don't get mo wrong - all this data is truly beautiful and I love data - but can we make something really useful out of it in F1 games?
Bet the chances are higher in ACC or iRacing.
Hey @dancrodrigues hope you’re good too mate - good to be back 👍🏽
It’s a good point you make. I guess it’s a case of understanding what the data shows and I’m pretty sure even with the limited options there will be things you feel/notice that can be observed in the data that can then be corrected by some combination of setup changes - see my example below.
There’s a lot of data points so I’d love to understand it to see if there are some setup changes I could make - my main barrier is knowing the data points and then knowing what setup things relate to them.
That being said, I’m happy with pretty much all my track specific setups that I’ve developed from a “feel” perspective. But having said that, I haven’t taken this to the extreme, I just find something I’m fairly comfortable with and go. But I have, for example, set camber a click either side of my setting the feeling is pretty much the same, so maybe I’ll see something in the data to make that decision, as maybe there is something to be gained, if you understand what I mean.
Example; I have noticed is when the tyres get toward the end of the stint and Jeff comes on saying “you might experience grip loss” - I know I’m going to start to lose rear grip, so I increase the diff and it stabilises it a bit. I’m yet to look if I can see that in the data (not sure where to look, maybe in wheel speed or something) but if I could back up what I feel with data - that’d be pretty cool.
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My criterion is: is it fun? From what I've read from your post you're having a real fun with it so ok, go full throttle for it!
Myself I have a problem when I fall into certain rabbit holes in which I start to gather data and create unnecessary procedures and the fun is lost. So it's a balance I always try to do to avoid this - sometimes my wife comes to me and say: remember it's a game, it's supposed to be light and fun. She's 100% right.
For instance, right now I'm doing a "real career" playing one season from each F1 game I have (starting 2019). At the moment I'm stuck 'cause I got bored after starting this thrice, and playing 100% race in Australia 3 times after an infinite loop of unncessary refinements. So it happened again, gonna get some weeks playing other thing to clean my mind haha
@dancrodrigues wrote:
My criterion is: is it fun? From what I've read from your post you're having a real fun with it so ok, go full throttle for it!Myself I have a problem when I fall into certain rabbit holes in which I start to gather data and create unnecessary procedures and the fun is lost. So it's a balance I always try to do to avoid this - sometimes my wife comes to me and say: remember it's a game, it's supposed to be light and fun. She's 100% right.
For instance, right now I'm doing a "real career" playing one season from each F1 game I have (starting 2019). At the moment I'm stuck 'cause I got bored after starting this thrice, and playing 100% race in Australia 3 times after an infinite loop of unncessary refinements. So it happened again, gonna get some weeks playing other thing to clean my mind haha
@dancrodrigues I know exactly what you mean - I’m similar to you. It’s initially a good learning experience and fun. Then you understand it a bit more and then in trying to maximise “the edge” it’s less so, bordering on obsession.
Same thing happened when I started tracking all my sessions and data to try and figure out what the game is doing with my suspicions of it cheating when “out of position” (I forgot to send you my sheet btw - will do that when back towards the end of the week if you still want it).
Added into this is my sneaking suspicion now that the game randomly makes things happens regarding handling and grip, which then nullifies to some extent any improvements you could make through understanding the data and modifying setup…
- @Monzstar83 It’s nice to know it’s not just me anymore. Once I was alone.
@Monzstar83I would never - ever - say no to a sheet hahaha
You see, this "fun" quite often get lost. I bought F1 22 some weeks after its launch and by the time there was that issue where the AI got a better exit out of the turns. So I take the time to learn the game with all assists off. And was painful. But I'm stubborn AF and finally managed to learn but man, that wasn't fun. I was paying much more attention on not making a mistake rather than just relaxing after a long day at office.
Long story short, today I'm zero ashamed of turning on any assist I want as long as I'm confortable playing.
As for the Suspicious Thread, you and our dearest Duck did a great job. haha
@dancrodrigues wrote:@Monzstar83I would never - ever - say no to a sheet hahaha
You see, this "fun" quite often get lost. I bought F1 22 some weeks after its launch and by the time there was that issue where the AI got a better exit out of the turns. So I take the time to learn the game with all assists off. And was painful. But I'm stubborn AF and finally managed to learn but man, that wasn't fun. I was paying much more attention on not making a mistake rather than just relaxing after a long day at office.
Long story short, today I'm zero ashamed of turning on any assist I want as long as I'm confortable playing.
As for the Suspicious Thread, you and our dearest Duck did a great job. hahaNo shame for using any assist. Once I was a assist playa too)
I tend to believe that no assist racing is at its best when you fighting with people who also don’t use it, because everyone would make mistakes here and there in a race.
