Wheel v Pad & Assists v No Assists
So this is quite often discussed in a league that I'm in....... Wheel v Pad So, in theory a wheel should be faster than a pad, it should also be easier than a pad yet I know numerous people on a pa...
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@GregStarz Just a quick question, what difficulty are you leagues on? Like what AI difficulty would you choose for a good fight against the AI?
Both very competitive, 105 AI I use for GP practice sessions
- @GregStarz Ok thats not too bad but for both no assists and wheel usage its a different set of skills. Its proven that the only assist that can give you an advantage when driving at your best is ABS. But if you make mistakes you will obviously loseout over assist users. Same with Pad vs Wheel, you got much more precision with a wheel but if you dont utilize this to its full potential a pad can still outperform you and it should be like that.
If you ask for a further nerf of TC, Pad and such this would lead to pad users with TC on unable to fight more than 100 AI even if they would be competing with esports drivers on a wheel without assists. Its a very delicate balance and every player has a different driving style, some might get favoured by a strong ABS, some might not gain at all because they are already braking like if they had no ABS. Some are very used to the way the throttle gets applied on a pad but dont have a feel for wheel/pedals. Point is its really depending on the player how good what is, best example IMO are Opmeers test videos, he is setting a base laptime (with very little to no practice time) and then does laps with assists turned on and he never improved, only got fairly close with ABS on in 2021. If ABS was as OP in basis he would improve but he already brakes almost perfectly so there is almost nothing to gain. However with players than dont play at such high level - even 105 is not comparable to Esports accuracy - ABS makes a bigger difference as you will make more mini mistakes/not do it perfectly every time so ABS can actually keep you closer to perfect.
Its never gonna be perfectly balanced as depending on your personal skills and driving style everything has a different impact on your laptimes
@Meza994 wrote:
If you ask for a further nerf of TC, Pad and such this would lead to pad users with TC on unable to fight more than 100 AI...Why would this be any sort of problem?
I always get torn with discussions like this. I drive without assists as I like the challenge and the feeling I'm having as much impact on what happens as I can, but I'm sure I could be quicker it I turned TC and ABS on. So I fully understand the appeal of giving more of an advantage to those driving without assists but equally it would be artificial if this were the case.
- @Ultrasonic_77 So the first problem is that the AI is better at higher difficulties, so makes less stupid mistakes (crashing into you on purpose) and better balanced performance over the season.
The second problem is its artificially slowing people down, even if someone drives perfect and doesnt utilize the effect of TC/ABS it would cost them laptime - otherwise a nerf wouldnt work because with perfect inputs it would still be the fastest possible.. Especially for offline players like myself who just want to enjoy racing and not be all the time 100% concentrated forced lower difficulty or forced No Assists would suck..
I can see the reason for online play but there is just no good balance. Some drivers that were equalling no assist players while using assists might be far behind then or not be affected at all, its just a tough "fix"
