Wheel v Pad & Assists v No Assists
So this is quite often discussed in a league that I'm in....... Wheel v Pad So, in theory a wheel should be faster than a pad, it should also be easier than a pad yet I know numerous people on a pa...
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@GregStarzWheel is quicker than pad. Also doing no assists on a wheel is much easier than doing no assists on pad. When talking to people on pad, the majority run at least one type of assist
@SomaticCoast375 wrote:@GregStarz Also doing no assists on a wheel is much easier than doing no assists on pad. When talking to people on pad, the majority run at least one type of assist
I'm not sure your second point is really evidence to support the first point. I'm certain there will be a strong correlation between those likely to want the extra challenge of trying to drive without assists and those prepared to invest more money in the driving game experience by buying a wheel and pedals.
I've done very little controller driving on the F1 games but my suspicion would actually be that the transition from assisted to no-assist driving would be easier. I say this as surely people generally have finer motor control with their fingers than their feet? I certainly do!
Regarding ABS my strong bet is that Jarno Opmeer could have been faster using it than not if he adapted his driving style to take advantage of it. This wouldn't to me make ABS OP but rather realistic.
@Ultrasonic_77 wrote:Regarding ABS my strong bet is that Jarno Opmeer could have been faster using it than not if he adapted his driving style to take advantage of it. This wouldn't to me make ABS OP but rather realistic.
Could be, and this intersects with what @Nuvolarix is saying. If instead of working like a race car ABS the F1 electronic assist were more akin to a road car ABS, it would engage much earlier so players wouldn't be able to keep their performance just at the limit of grip as easily. Or make it so that it relieves even more braking pressure, so if you overstep the grip limit enough to engage the ABS it would lengthen the braking distance even more.
We've had this discussion a handful of times in the OG forums. I'm of the same opinion as always:
- The "assists are overpowered" is usually baseless. People come up with irrelevant scenarios that do not support this conclusion or misconstrues how these assists do/should work;
- Never ever seen evidence of TC being overpowered. Usually it is uninspired players with no TC comparing themselves with uninspired players with TC on. Surely the latter have a better chance of performing better and that's as intended;
- ABS could maybe use some rework just to keep it on par with TC in efficiency...
- ... But I really don't care that much. Better filters to enforce assist use, discrete leaderboards for non-assisted scores and we'll be in a much better place without needing to mess with the game code.
@Ultrasonic_77 wrote:
@SomaticCoast375 wrote:@GregStarz Also doing no assists on a wheel is much easier than doing no assists on pad. When talking to people on pad, the majority run at least one type of assist
I'm not sure your second point is really evidence to support the first point. I'm certain there will be a strong correlation between those likely to want the extra challenge of trying to drive without assists and those prepared to invest more money in the driving game experience by buying a wheel and pedals.
I've done very little controller driving on the F1 games but my suspicion would actually be that the transition from assisted to no-assist driving would be easier. I say this as surely people generally have finer motor control with their fingers than their feet? I certainly do!
I’m talking about how rarer it is to find a no assist user on pad and not about who wants a wheel
@SomaticCoast375What @Ultrasonic_77 means (I guess) is that your point doesn't pack that much of a punch in this argument because statistically that could not be any other scenario.
All casuals and newbies play with pad.All those that play with a wheel usually are experienced players with enough hours to justify the purchase and will tend to play with less or even no assists.
The group of highly experienced, good players that still play with a pad, that's the only one relevant for this discussion. Can you directly compare them to their equals in the wheel group, taking the casuals out of the equation? Hardly, as statistically any pad player you come across has a good chance of being a casual, and any wheel player you come across has an even better chance of being experienced.- @mariohomoh I don’t know about the new players but of course for both pad and wheel they would use assists
I was talking about players who have played the games for years or even played for not the longest but are still fast. Of course we don’t know the actual percentage
