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@SteveJackson wrote:
Why would you even buy a track that isn't raced? Variety you say. Are 20-odd tracks insufficient?
We don't know if we're talking free or paid for DLC yet. The option to buy a short track, whether what was previously in the game or raced more recently, does no harm though. There is no current expectation for any short tracks to be raced this year so by your logic it wouldn't make any difference which version we were talking about.
In terms of what I might personally at least consider paying for, I wouldn't pay for any short tracks but might for say Hockenheim if it wasn't too expensive, despite it not currently being on the F1 calendar.
@Ultrasonic_77 wrote:In terms of what I might personally at least consider paying for, I wouldn't pay for any short tracks but might for say Hockenheim if it wasn't too expensive, despite it not currently being on the F1 calendar.
Not sure if that's one of the reasons for @SteveJackson's concerning, but if the tracks are released as a bundle only and you get say Hockenheim as full track plus all the short tracks we used to have up to F1 2020, the shorties will inflate the price of the limited content you're actually interested in. In the end your attitudes may not be that different, as you both do not care about short tracks; it may just be that one is assuming they will do no harm, whilst the other is concerned with the business model Codies may be cooking up.
Too soon for me to care, personally. But we're getting supercars, and I don't recall the declared reasoning behind the removal of short tracks – if it was a pitiful excuse or a justifiable one like that for removing classic cars, something along the lines of choosing to prioritize dev time with other content instead of updating classic cars to new physics and new hardware features. If they were removed just to make a comeback bearing no meaningful improvements under a DLC model that bundles stuff up with no option to pick and choose what you pay for, that's bad.
Again, too soon. But I don't think Steve is coming out of left field as it may seem at first glance.
- Ultrasonic_773 years agoHero
Personally I'm still hoping we'll get Portimao added as free post-launch DLC.
It's a fair point that if short tracks are combined with something else other may want but at an inflated price then this wouldn't be good. Honestly the threshold for what I might pay for DLC is very low and chances are I'll end up not buying any DLC. Not that I've even bought the base game yet!
- mariohomoh3 years agoHero (Retired)@Ultrasonic_77 Thin and faint line, that of DLCs. There are obvious and legitimate reasons to postpone the release of and arguably even charge for tracks like Portimao and China as the AI must be trained and some assets maybe even touched up a bit. Same with classic cars plus all the headache of licensing.
But boy oh boy the backlash if they get released as paid DLC with no apparent changes.
And that can potentially be a kamikaze instructor kind of thing, right? Listen well as I will only demonstrate it once. Say they release these tracks as DLC and charge for them, that's a one and only deal. Could look bad if Codies try to charge for them again in F1 23. - Ultrasonic_773 years agoHero
@mariohomoh wrote:
@Ultrasonic_77Thin and faint line, that of DLCs. There are obvious and legitimate reasons to postpone the release of and arguably even charge for tracks like Portimao and China as the AI must be trained and some assets maybe even touched up a bit. Same with classic cars plus all the headache of licensing.
But boy oh boy the backlash if they get released as paid DLC with no apparent changes.
And that can potentially be a kamikaze instructor kind of thing, right? Listen well as I will only demonstrate it once. Say they release these tracks as DLC and charge for them, that's a one and only deal. Could look bad if Codies tr to charge for them again in F1 23.Yes there is resource needed to add tracks like Portimao but that doesn't automatically mean there needs to be an additional charge for them. Adding tracks for free would produce positive publicity for the game, could help boost sales of the game several months after launch, and would of course help keep existing players happy.
As you allude to, given the annual release nature of the game I think DLC tracks will need to be pretty cheap for many to consider them. Otherwise even those that do buy them couid end up reluctant to buy next year's game and lose the extras they've paid for.
- mariohomoh3 years agoHero (Retired)@Ultrasonic_77 Codemasters really seems to be in a midstep. Even their whole season pass and pit coin program still feels kinda iffy?
Keeping extra tracks in the default roster for custom races and championships in future titles, after whatever heavy hauling gets done this year to release them in a DLC format, would signal the community that the franchise is trying to build a presence instead of only milking cows.