How to stop 3-4 blitz/Feedback MEGATHREAD
Please fix the overpowered blitz glitch cause to me its cheating when playing online and only those that use it to win will say different so please fix it
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@Mr_DaddyJ_93 I can only speak for myself, but in the 8000+ games since my first online game in November 2002, I've never encountered a blitz I wasn't able to block for long enough to run a consistently productive offense. That was before slide protecction, ID the Mike, double teams, or Max protect were even added to the offense's arsenal, so pardon me if I seem a little weary of the "all I can do is quit" angle because I'm facing the same online players as everyone else and I'm blocking it...
I'll preface this post with a philosophy that is commonly overlooked, but should inform our strategic decisions. Football is about getting the right players to the right places at the right time; in essence, there are only three things to worry about: Personnel, Position, and Tempo.
I challenge you to do more. Remember, I'm haven't used shotgun in 17 years. Ask yourself:
- Are you positioning your players to be able to block a blitz through formation?
- Are you taking too long to spot open man?
- Are you maximizing your protection by staying in the pocket?
By my count, you've tried about 4 of the possible hundred or so things you could use to solve your protection problem. The reason 70-80% of people online use the same things isn't because it's a glitch, it's because the average Madden player hasn't figured it out and quits before they find a solution...
You can block ANY BLITZ - if you really want to. Or you could complain about not wanting to and not block the blitz. I'll help you if you want, or you can stay frustrated. Choice is yours.
Later
I'll preface this post with a philosophy that is commonly overlooked, but should inform our strategic decisions. Football is about getting the right players to the right places at the right time; in essence, there are only three things to worry about: Personnel, Position, and Tempo.
I challenge you to do more. Remember, I'm haven't used shotgun in 17 years. Ask yourself:
- Are you positioning your players to be able to block a blitz through formation?
- Are you taking too long to spot open man?
- Are you maximizing your protection by staying in the pocket?
By my count, you've tried about 4 of the possible hundred or so things you could use to solve your protection problem. The reason 70-80% of people online use the same things isn't because it's a glitch, it's because the average Madden player hasn't figured it out and quits before they find a solution...
You can block ANY BLITZ - if you really want to. Or you could complain about not wanting to and not block the blitz. I'll help you if you want, or you can stay frustrated. Choice is yours.
Later
So if I block my te slide my line double team I'd the Mike Block my rb all in the same play every play an their x factor Lawrence Taylor gets to me before I can drop back or if they get through the middle or the left what then? My linemen get dumbed out by these blitzes that's broken I shouldn't have to do 50 different things just to do 1 play when all they have to do is 2 things that's boring an extremely effective blitzes are ok but when all you have to do is blitz the entire get an get to me before I even drop that's an issue i don't always run gun. Even then if the blitz don't get me it's perfect man coverage an run d I have an 89 overall team an can't do nothing sometimes. An yeah your right FOOTBALL is about all those things but linemen in Real life don't run past who they gotta block same with rbs same with tes this is not reality it's a broken game with issues an im talking about mut.
- @Mr_DaddyJ_93 I don't play MUT. Never have. But I imagine Lawrance Taylor had real coaches scratching their heads until Joe Gibbs started using the Singleback Ace formations to negate LT's weak side pass rushes.
That said, in H2H I rarely used Slide Protect, ID the Mike, or the Double Teams. I-Form, Weak I, Strong I, and Singleback are the staples of my offense. Against man coverage, I know my hot reads so I can get rid of the ball in 3-steps. Against zones, I blend concepts that get men open so I can get the ball out in 3-steps. Nothing beats blitzes like a consistent quick passing game from formations that buy time...
Over the course of many years, I've seen Madden players try to throw the kitchen sink at blitzes when a single adjustment will do the trick. It's as if they feel like they have to use all the tools in their toolbox, when all they need is a screwdriver. The more instructions you give your protection, the more likely they are to dumb out; more correctly, the more the user is likely to misinterpret how the combination of instructions tells their linemen block. You don't have to do 50 different things to block blitzes... Sometimes all you need to do is change your formation, look to a different receiver first, or hot route one eligible receiver to block.
Take a logical approach without changing the logic first. Start with simple stuff first. Putting players close to the guy they are going to block, instead of relying on giving them 3 or 4 potentially conflicting assignments to reach block guys 3-5 yards away.
If positioning players alone doesn't buy the time you need (all three elements of strategy), THEN start changing the O-line logic by sliding, IDing the Mike, etc...
If you slide protection, be sure to block the back to the opposite side, and if you ID the Mike, choose a rusher you expect to be unblocked.
With a little tweaking to fit these ideas into your offense, you'll be able to buy your QB at least two more steps of dropback time (all three elements of strategy) which will open up more routes on the route tree as receiver options.
Hope this helps,
Later - @Mr_DaddyJ_93 Also.. forgot to add. If your opponent sends 6 against a 5 man protection scheme - that unblocked rusher is the Quarterback's man to beat either by moving or getting rid of the ball quickly.
That's my point bro I do those things I'm 26 I been playing Madden for quite a while mut since it came out an this is the worst year for blitzing I've ever seen it ruins the game I've tried all that you've mentioned the YouTubers keep on giving these people cheat blitzes they have whole 10 minute videos on it. There is no moving with the QB you snap the ball an instant sack even if you click the pass button immediately with a wide open guy an have all your blocking assignment covered
Well these players are terrible every game I join now wether it's mut, or just an online play now I get cheesed to death, mainly the 3-4 and 4-4 spammers, my question is EA will you do anything to prevent further game exploits from those plays? Also please fix the dam blocking.
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Moved your response here for discussion and advice.
- @TrumpsADump99 I'll preface this with the statement that what I'm going to say is going to be hard to swallow, then I'm going to try to help you rise above the stuff you feel is cheese...
First things first... NEVER USE THE CHEESE TERM!!! It is the language of the uneducated, and frankly it breeds laziness. Years ago, I wrote an article called "Chess or Cheese" that I believe is worth a read (https://maddenuniversity.com/communities/commentary/9-chess-or-cheese.html) - assuming you are really tired of "Cheese."
Second, what is cheesy to one is not cheesy to another. Reason being that everyone thinks that anyone taking advantage of their specific weakness is doing something cheesy. Then we blame our weaknesses on the game, as if not being able to block a blitz or stop a scrambling quarterback was EA's fault. But truthfully, if anything were EA's fault, EVERYONE would have the same exact problem. But we don't have the same weaknesses - thus - the solution lies with each individual.
Last in my list of hard to swallow pills - The solutions you seek are already in the game, and have been for years. We, as a community of players, often ignore the simplest basics of football strategy. We want to get the right person (personnel), to the right place (position), at the right time (tempo). If anyone EVER suggest that something is broken (or fixed for that matter) and they don't include a personnel, position, or tempo answer to your question - DO NOT TRUST THEM. Furthermore, if someone tells you something is unblockable, unstoppable, or otherwise outside of your strategic grasp - Don't trust them either.
That said... Let's get into something that will work against the Meta plays of the Madden NFL 20 season... 3-4 Odd Pinch Buck 0 and Cover 4 Drop Show 2:
- Singleback Ace destroys 3-4 Odd formations: (Position) In order to block someone, you must be close enough to touch them. 3-4 Odd places 7 defenders across the line of scrimamge. So does the Singleback Ace. Every blitzer is accounted for, so the simplest run play (HB Dive) will gouge the defensive alignment for big yards. A FB, TE, or any player near the wing will work as well to crush the 3-4 Odd defense (personnel and (position). It will guaranteed you can by time (tempo) to run an effective offense.
- Curl/Flat Combos from Singleback Ace: (Personnel, Position, Tempo) The curl flat offensive concept (practice in Skills Trainer) will destroy the combination of Pinch Buck and Cover 4 Drop Show 2 defenses with one read. Read either safety. If he comes down, throw to the WR (personnel) on the curl (position) on the 5th step (tempo). If he drops back, throw to the TE/FB (personnel) in the flat (position) on your 3rd step (tempo).
These are just two solutions to your problem. There are a multitue of others. If you approach each problem you experience with the three elements of football strategy, you will be able to solve virtually every football problem you will have on Madden...
Hope this helps,
LaterI'm going to say a couple things that will be hard to swallow, starting with yes it's called cheesing while midblitz and 3-4 pinch blitzes are usually easy as hell to counter (I'll slant the son of a *) newer blitzes like the DB sting blitzes have become more common with this game and certain formations are great for spamming, along with the onside kicks that are so freaking rampant nowadays, it's not EA's fault kids don't know how to actually play it's the players so while EA may recycle the game with new features here and there the players are to blame in terms of certain gameplay exploits. So please before you go on and on trying to defend the cheesers (or exploiters) remember it's freaking Madden man. (And please step away from the keyboard man you need a break)
