How to stop 3-4 blitz/Feedback MEGATHREAD
Please fix the overpowered blitz glitch cause to me its cheating when playing online and only those that use it to win will say different so please fix it
EA_Blueberry: Edited post title to match...
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Well these players are terrible every game I join now wether it's mut, or just an online play now I get cheesed to death, mainly the 3-4 and 4-4 spammers, my question is EA will you do anything to prevent further game exploits from those plays? Also please fix the dam blocking.
@TrumpsADump99 I'll preface this with the statement that what I'm going to say is going to be hard to swallow, then I'm going to try to help you rise above the stuff you feel is cheese...
First things first... NEVER USE THE CHEESE TERM!!! It is the language of the uneducated, and frankly it breeds laziness. Years ago, I wrote an article called "Chess or Cheese" that I believe is worth a read (https://maddenuniversity.com/communities/commentary/9-chess-or-cheese.html) - assuming you are really tired of "Cheese."
Second, what is cheesy to one is not cheesy to another. Reason being that everyone thinks that anyone taking advantage of their specific weakness is doing something cheesy. Then we blame our weaknesses on the game, as if not being able to block a blitz or stop a scrambling quarterback was EA's fault. But truthfully, if anything were EA's fault, EVERYONE would have the same exact problem. But we don't have the same weaknesses - thus - the solution lies with each individual.
Last in my list of hard to swallow pills - The solutions you seek are already in the game, and have been for years. We, as a community of players, often ignore the simplest basics of football strategy. We want to get the right person (personnel), to the right place (position), at the right time (tempo). If anyone EVER suggest that something is broken (or fixed for that matter) and they don't include a personnel, position, or tempo answer to your question - DO NOT TRUST THEM. Furthermore, if someone tells you something is unblockable, unstoppable, or otherwise outside of your strategic grasp - Don't trust them either.
That said... Let's get into something that will work against the Meta plays of the Madden NFL 20 season... 3-4 Odd Pinch Buck 0 and Cover 4 Drop Show 2:
- Singleback Ace destroys 3-4 Odd formations: (Position) In order to block someone, you must be close enough to touch them. 3-4 Odd places 7 defenders across the line of scrimamge. So does the Singleback Ace. Every blitzer is accounted for, so the simplest run play (HB Dive) will gouge the defensive alignment for big yards. A FB, TE, or any player near the wing will work as well to crush the 3-4 Odd defense (personnel and (position). It will guaranteed you can by time (tempo) to run an effective offense.
- Curl/Flat Combos from Singleback Ace: (Personnel, Position, Tempo) The curl flat offensive concept (practice in Skills Trainer) will destroy the combination of Pinch Buck and Cover 4 Drop Show 2 defenses with one read. Read either safety. If he comes down, throw to the WR (personnel) on the curl (position) on the 5th step (tempo). If he drops back, throw to the TE/FB (personnel) in the flat (position) on your 3rd step (tempo).
These are just two solutions to your problem. There are a multitue of others. If you approach each problem you experience with the three elements of football strategy, you will be able to solve virtually every football problem you will have on Madden...
Hope this helps,
Later
First things first... NEVER USE THE CHEESE TERM!!! It is the language of the uneducated, and frankly it breeds laziness. Years ago, I wrote an article called "Chess or Cheese" that I believe is worth a read (https://maddenuniversity.com/communities/commentary/9-chess-or-cheese.html) - assuming you are really tired of "Cheese."
Second, what is cheesy to one is not cheesy to another. Reason being that everyone thinks that anyone taking advantage of their specific weakness is doing something cheesy. Then we blame our weaknesses on the game, as if not being able to block a blitz or stop a scrambling quarterback was EA's fault. But truthfully, if anything were EA's fault, EVERYONE would have the same exact problem. But we don't have the same weaknesses - thus - the solution lies with each individual.
Last in my list of hard to swallow pills - The solutions you seek are already in the game, and have been for years. We, as a community of players, often ignore the simplest basics of football strategy. We want to get the right person (personnel), to the right place (position), at the right time (tempo). If anyone EVER suggest that something is broken (or fixed for that matter) and they don't include a personnel, position, or tempo answer to your question - DO NOT TRUST THEM. Furthermore, if someone tells you something is unblockable, unstoppable, or otherwise outside of your strategic grasp - Don't trust them either.
That said... Let's get into something that will work against the Meta plays of the Madden NFL 20 season... 3-4 Odd Pinch Buck 0 and Cover 4 Drop Show 2:
- Singleback Ace destroys 3-4 Odd formations: (Position) In order to block someone, you must be close enough to touch them. 3-4 Odd places 7 defenders across the line of scrimamge. So does the Singleback Ace. Every blitzer is accounted for, so the simplest run play (HB Dive) will gouge the defensive alignment for big yards. A FB, TE, or any player near the wing will work as well to crush the 3-4 Odd defense (personnel and (position). It will guaranteed you can by time (tempo) to run an effective offense.
- Curl/Flat Combos from Singleback Ace: (Personnel, Position, Tempo) The curl flat offensive concept (practice in Skills Trainer) will destroy the combination of Pinch Buck and Cover 4 Drop Show 2 defenses with one read. Read either safety. If he comes down, throw to the WR (personnel) on the curl (position) on the 5th step (tempo). If he drops back, throw to the TE/FB (personnel) in the flat (position) on your 3rd step (tempo).
These are just two solutions to your problem. There are a multitue of others. If you approach each problem you experience with the three elements of football strategy, you will be able to solve virtually every football problem you will have on Madden...
Hope this helps,
Later
I'm going to say a couple things that will be hard to swallow, starting with yes it's called cheesing while midblitz and 3-4 pinch blitzes are usually easy as hell to counter (I'll slant the son of a *) newer blitzes like the DB sting blitzes have become more common with this game and certain formations are great for spamming, along with the onside kicks that are so freaking rampant nowadays, it's not EA's fault kids don't know how to actually play it's the players so while EA may recycle the game with new features here and there the players are to blame in terms of certain gameplay exploits. So please before you go on and on trying to defend the cheesers (or exploiters) remember it's freaking Madden man. (And please step away from the keyboard man you need a break)
Oh and your part about the whole use your football IQ to solve those problems, yeah tell that to Madden logic behind a freaking 4-4 and DB sting blitz while that would be easy to counter in the NFL, in this game even with a great o-line the blocking breaks down in 2 seconds, my recovers forget what running there routes means and my QB hits the dirt faster than this franchise (unfortunately)
Lmao thank you. Give us a way to counter it geez you put max protect a tight end an rb to block id the Mike an it still is not enough then you gotta hope your wr can can open because the man coverage might be perfect
EA_BlueberryCommunity Manager
If you're all having some trouble with a certain blitz, be sure to mention if it's standard H2H teams or Madden Ultimate Team.
Why not compile a list of great counters to these blitzes you are all referring to? Toss in a video of the blitz in question and let's dissect it. Personally, I've seen some success with toss plays when opponents are bunching up their linebackers at the line. If you hike the ball right when the receiver is in motion by the outside TE/lineman you help gain an extra blocker when you're trying to get to the edge.
- @TrumpsADump99 Suit yourself... I have had 0 problems with "new blitzes" because of the approach I just suggested, which I've used for more than a decade. But you do not have to use any of the advice I or anyone else gave... It's your right to remain frustrated.
@Mr_DaddyJ_93 I was watching a YouTube video titled "Unblockable Blitz" the other day with a blitz out of a Dime formation with on defensive lineman. The blitz sent 4 rushers (1 DL, 2LB at the ends, and a DB off the edge) and had cover 2 behind it. The setup was simple, spread the line, contain, and move the blitzing DB to the line jsut outside the end's shoulder. Simple enough.
Then the video started making outlandish claims like - glitchy, unblockable, you can't blocking it with slide protect, ID the Mike, or Max Protect. The video then went on to show 4 rushers destroy a shotgun formation with a back in the backfield while blocking 7.
Here's the problem... The back started on the side of the blitzing DB and blocked the blitz three times straight with one hot route. Then the guy in the video motioned the back to where he and the TE were both on the opposite side of the blitz, so that even if they both blocked, they probably weren't going to get to the DB that was generating the sacks (personnel, position, and tempo). I actually commented that it he blocked 5 guys in the parking lot, they would have the same chance of blocking that blitz...
My point is, there are a ton of videos about blitzes that use personnel, position, and tempo to prove their blitzes are "unblockable glitches" because that's how you get views and subscribers. Tell the average Madden player that a blitz can't be blocked, then show them a blitz working against a formation with no chance of picking it up and you will earn thousands of subscribers. And I'm tired of people misleading Madden players into thinking these gimmicks are glitchy or unblockable when they are NEITHER.
Back to the video. While I watched it, I thought of how I would have blocked the blitz, and it would have NEVER touched my QB.
I wrote an article called 16 Ways to Beat Blitzes (https://maddenuniversity.com/strategies/offense/25-beat-blitzes.html) years ago... It's available at my website http://www.maddenuniversity.com in the members area and it's been FREE for 16 years.
I invite you to check it out. Lots of answers to your questions all at MY EXPENSE. When people ask what's in it for me? The answer is: I play Madden for the competition and I don't want my opponents to suck.
LaterLol play mut an see if you don't have the problem don't run shotgun run anything you want I have 92 wrs not getting open even if I somehow manage to block them it works SOMETIMES it's not rocket science to block the blitz it's the fact that the game machanics to block those blitzes are not good
