Re: Quicksell Values

The purpose behind asking that the question be answered by EA is because I have seen a potential answer, but every time that I have observed that potential answer it was from a source of questionable reliability. I want the answer to come form a source of reliable authority. In a customer service chat I have asked EA for the rules governing how they determine the Quicksell Values of the cards and they refused to answer. I also asked if the determination of Quicksell values is determined using any other factor other than the OVR of the card and they refused to answer. 

The best source that I have seen on Quicksell values is madden-school.com, which indicates that Quicksell training values are tied directly to the OVR of the card with no other factor ever being in play: https://www.madden-school.com/madden-22-ultimate-team-quicksell-training-values/

In the absence of an explanation from a reliable source, it is my current belief that my Madden EA account is being targeted for some reason and I would like an explanation and/or for that targeting to stop. If you can provide your answer while providing it with where and how you obtained the answer--and that where and how is reliable--then that might be helpful. 

AT Cards quicksells for full amount, NAT for 1/2 and NCAT for 1/4. for clarification in the appendix a 94 ovr of each kind from my own item binder.

LOCKED cards from official ea giveaway wins also quicksells for full amount.

Your photos contain the conclusion; the result of the application of a rule.  I want to know the source of the rule. I want to see something from a reliable source that specifies what the rule is. You have reached the conclusion that NATs are 1/2 and NCATs are 1/4 Quicksell value by doing the math on the cards. Where is the rule that says that is what it is supposed to be? Maybe your cards are messed up, too. 

Why doesn't madden-school.com -- probably the most reliable source on Madden that there is -- discuss these 1/2 and 1/4 rules in its explanation on how to obtain Training and Quickselling cards? 

Why did EA itself refuse to give me the rules on Quickselling (so far)? Why did EA refuse to answer pointed questions about it, such as: Is there any other factor in play other than the OVR of the card? Such a simple question. 

One nice thing about having the answer provided through someone else (other than EA) in a forum, such as yourself, is that it absolves EA of any responsibility for what you tell me. EA should be taking responsibility for its game and answering questions that I have about its game. 

I want to know what the exact rule is, and I want to learn it from EA. 

@Zinch42 

Are you asking what the actual thought process/design decision developers go through to determine why X item is worth more than others or are you asking why X card that you have at 90 OVR quicksells less than another 90 OVR card? 

If it's card specific, it will help if you share the actual items that can be searched at muthead.com. 

@EA_Blueberry 

EA Answered only to ask a question!

I am asking: ⚽ What rules govern the determination of the Training Quicksell value of the card. 🏈 Is there any other factor that goes into the determination other than the OVR of the card? If so, then what?

Everything I have seen indicates that ALL cards are supposed to Quicksell for a predetermined amount of training, and that predetermined amount is set by OVR. The most reliable source of the predetermined amount is here: https://www.madden-school.com/madden-22-ultimate-team-quicksell-training-values/

The other anonymous individual on this post has indicated that NATs and NCATs Quicksell for a lower amount, 1/2 and 1/4 of that predetermined amount, respectively. I don't take that at face value. I want to hear from EA whether that is true or not.

@Zinch42 

Checking with the team to see if we can get an official answer on this. If we can get an answer for this I'll make sure to update this thread. 

@EA_Blueberry Any update? 

Also, I am currently not receiving the correct value of coins when I lose during Throwdown Showdown.  I'm supposed to be receiving 400 coins per loss; instead, I'm receiving 25 coins per loss.  Any idea why? 

I just reached 30 wins in Throwdown Showdown.  The reward is supposed to be 10,000 coins.  I only received 5,000. 

@Neo_Novalis Thank you for the help.  I'm not sure if that was it, because I am pretty sure that I have been getting 25 coins regardless if I finished the game or not.  It has been an issue for months.  I even attempted to obtain assistance from EA about it, to no avail. However, ever since your post went up I am now noticing that I'm getting the full amount as long as I play to the end. It would be interesting if I could go back and look at an accounting of my account to see if what you say is accurate for my account. 

@EA_Blueberry Any update?

New question: When I do the auction house sometimes the system does not give me credit for the actual amount of coins that I have once I place one bid. For example, let's say I have 75,000 coins; I'm bidding on a card with a BN of 80,000; and I bid 60,000. I subsequently get outbid at 63,000. If I attempt to place a bid at 64,000, the system will say that I don't have enough coins. But I do because 60,000 of my 75,000 is being held by the system.  This does not happen to me on every single auction, but it happens to me frequently enough to be very frustrating. It makes it very difficult to successfully participate in a bidding war on a high value card. This can't possibly be normal. Does EA have a solution?

sometimes it takes a while til the system gives your coins back when you are outbid. it can help to quickly go out of the auction and jump back in.

i know it could be tricky. if it takes too long to get back into the auction, the auction may already be over...

@EA_BlueberryYou did not answer my questions. Is there any other factor--other than OVR--that goes into the determination of the Quicksell value of an item? If not, then this should be the definitive listing of what items should quicksell for: https://www.madden-school.com/madden-22-ultimate-team-quicksell-training-values/

I have many items--NATs and NCATs--that Quicksell for significantly less than the value listed on the above noted website, which suggests that there is no other factor involved other than the OVR. Are NATs and NCATs Quicksold for a lower amount than the listed OVR value? If so, then what is that amount?

@satfreaktom264 

Yea, no kidding it's tricky. Or impossible.

@EA_Blueberry 

Does EA have a comment or solution to the fact that I am not being given credit for the full value of my coins once I place one bid in an auction?

@Zinch42 

NAT NCAT items are usually a quarter of the QS value of an item that is that OVR.

Regarding the auction house. I recommend power cycling your console which can help avoid strange in-game issues. When you experience the coins not coming back to your account right away is that due to continuous back and forth bidding or spamming the submit button? I've had it happened to me before in the past, however it's rare and when I backed out of MUT and re-entered the coins were returned.