@JeRabo81 before we go into money things, no i am not getting any pocket money from my parents because i have a job, a house, my own car so i dont have to rely on them if i need something as i could afford the game by myself but thanks for judging me without any proper information of my financial status. (27/M)
Back on the topic; yes it has flaws. I could get less bugs for my money if they would put more effort in the game. But is there any game that's perfect? Nope. Are they working on fixing the bugs? Yes they are. Is it going to take a while? Seems like, but in the end you may would get a proper patch with more bugs fixed.
Try to enjoy the game as i said. Almost everybody having various bugs with the game, yet they can deal with most of them. If you cant, do you solve anything with it by raging here? Nope. Sure you gonna have a few people who might agree with you but its not gonna lead anywhere. Be patient thats the most we can do, and if you cant cope with the bugs, try to send an email directly to Bioware because not sure they check this forum so often.
@RoastPotato26"Back on the topic; yes it has flaws. I could get less bugs for my money if they would put more effort in the game. But is there any game that's perfect? Nope. Are they working on fixing the bugs? Yes they are. Is it going to take a while? Seems like, but in the end you may would get a proper patch with more bugs fixed.
Try to enjoy the game as i said. Almost everybody having various bugs with the game, yet they can deal with most of them. If you cant, do you solve anything with it by raging here? Nope. Sure you gonna have a few people who might agree with you but its not gonna lead anywhere. Be patient thats the most we can do, and if you cant cope with the bugs, try to send an email directly to Bioware because not sure they check this forum so often."
I absolutely agree with you, that there is no perfect game, but the difference is, that other non triple A games, have fewer bugs than many triple A games. And I am tired of buying games which are unfinished and I have the right to complain about that, without being a child or sound like a unsatisfied child. I AM TIRED of developers who rip their customers off. The developers have QA testers, but it seems they don't even play their games, otherwise they wouldn't sell this game so early. I feel very disrespected as a paying customer and again, I have the right to complain, because they have MY money which I worked for. And to me it is NOT okay, that they sell unfinished games and then they are going: "Don't worry, we will fix it at a later date." NO! They got my money NOW and I want a working game NOW and not at a later date. Why do I have to feel so unsatisfied with a game which costs 60 Euros? Like I've said in an earlier post, I want to have fun with a game that costs that amount of money. I don't want to feel anger growing in me, because again they ripped me off. I personally have enough of that, because this is not the first time a triple A developer is doing something like this. Skyrim is still not without bugs. They even ported the bugs into Skyrim SE. Really?! Which company can do something like that to their customers without any consequences? None! Only game developers and this is NOT normal. Sorry, that is my opinion and I have the right to have this opinion and I really don't care if I sound like an unsatisfied child in your eyes. I really don't care.
I'll reiterate this is a bug reporting thread, some people are going to be angry that a product as buggy as this got OK'd to be sold in the state it's in and they absolutely have a right to complain about it (just don't forget to mention the bugs so anything new and validated can get added to the first post). If anyone can't deal with seeing their "beloved" criticised I suggest you simply stop reading and move on but like it or not this is a bug reporting thread.
I'll also add that Andromeda is in such a broken / buggy state that in accordance with UK law and trading standards it could be returned to where it was bought from for a full refund as it is not at this time of merchantable quality.
@ketxxx The funny thing is, that I don't have the right to get my money back. As I bought this digital game I got a message from EA, that when I buy it, there's NO money back guarranty. I should've known why there is none....
But you are right, this is a bug report thread, but the thing is, I don't play this mess anymore, I only came back to see how many more bugs the people have found and I had to self-defend myself against this ridicoulus statement that we're sounding like unsatisfied children. Unbelieveable that there are people who are happy with this game and the bugs in it....
@JeRabo81 I'm not playing Andromeda anymore either, the sheer amount of bugs and lack of polish has completely ruined the game for me. I doubt I'll be playing MEA again any time soon. I might try again near christmas when you would hope the mess is sorted out. The good news is that the mess with MEA has got me playing Skyrim SE with a ton of mods. 🙂
@ketxxx Then have fun with Skyrim SE. 🙂 I play Fallout 4 with a ton of mods and it's more fun then MEA will ever be. I rather play ME 1,2 and 3 100 times again, before I get my hands on MEA again.
@JeRabo81 Yeah ME1-3 are really good, says something though when you can point to much older games and say they look as good or better and have far better gameplay mechanics than a game thats been made on Frostbite3. I don't know what the hell the devs were doing the past 5 years but I'd certainly put part of MEAs dreadful state down to very poor time management. You could argue inexperience too but even inexperience doesn't really excuse the poor scripting and boring tasks all you need is someone half good at what they are doing with a bit of imagination. I'd even put money on Bioware hiring as a sign that people got fired over the state of Andromeda.
@ketxxx "...Bioware hiring as a sign that people got fired over the state of Andromeda."
Exactly this is what I thought when I read that BioWare's hiring new people. 🙂 They also should fire the producer, because HE is the one who's responsible. I mean, didn't he checked in which state this mess of a game is? Haven't he seen that the animations look cr@ppy? And IF he has seen it, then why didn't he told the animators that their work is cr@p? I really don't get so many things which got wrong with this game and that nobody at BioWare noticed it BEFORE they sold it. I don't get it...
@JeRabo81 The animations aren't actually the devs fault, I've heard EA outsourced a lot of that to some arse end of nowhere studio they have and relied on auto-generation software to do it. Bioware are at fault for everything like poor weapon balancing, bullet sponge enemies, the player falling through the bloody level, stuff like that though.
@ketxxx @JeRabo81 ruining the ME series, deploying a game that is totally broken, thinking that writing a script that makes no sense according to the ME lore is acceptable, not giving a damn about their customers to even come out with a formal apology, not giving a timeline for a patch to fix the most serious bugs in game, and worst of all, continuing to advertise the game as working!
@Xx-Gimmle-xXExactly. It's a shame what they did to Mass Effect and it's a shame that all good people at BioWare are gone. This wouldn't have had happen if Casey Hudson would be still the producer. Okay, we would have a sh*tty ending, but the rest of the game would be okay. Unfortunately he decided to work for Microsoft...
Maybe if we help start an easier to read catalog of the issues on a site like a github repo with a readme etc? That would allow us/them to see what has been checked/fixed/etc ?
See my thread in Game Info:
http://answers.ea.com/t5/Game-Information/Setting-up-a-Github-Repo-for-issues/m-p/6043668
If there are people interested, i'll be happy to open a github repo and add anyone who wants to contribute.
I can't start Out of the Frying Pan mission after settling on Kadara. The guy who gives you the mission is standing in the dock area. Name is Grayson Wessler
Not sure if that's a bug or since I chose Reyes as leader, and the guy giving me the mission was an Outcast, then he might have gotten killed during the raid to kick the Outcasts from Kadara.
Anyways, after killing Sloane and completing the High Noon mission, he is gone from where he was. Same goes for the other Outcast guys you're supposed to talk to for the mission (eg. Krogan warden near the exit to the Slums).
If someone wants to start a github they can try, but the chances of the devs using anything like that is slim I'd say. Also, to hopefully make Bioware and EA sit up and get their acts together heres a review I dug up from ACG, pretty much sums everything up in 12 mins. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzJc6jo-0XA&list=PL62tz83FJJjlP-rz4qKNts3Kwf3iwhbpG&index=11
@ketxxx LOL I loved the last part : "I can play 60 hours of mass effect andromeda or flick my nuts for 60 hours, I can, it doesn't mean I want to" I was laughing my head off.
Edited spolier alert, if you didn't finish the game don't read:
@Xx-Gimmle-xX, lol yeah ACG is good at telling it like it is. I really hope Bioware / EA has sat up and taken notice.
Another bug.... and a really fkn bad one I know everyone has encountered but theres so many damn bugs has just been forgotten about by us... On Voeld, the mission you pick up to take out the main kett base, the room you have to turn off / hack a bunch of consoles while fighting every kind of kett enemy, the fires that start when taking the consoles out causes seizure inducing what seems to be light flickering. If anyone knows what I mean and can tell me the name of that mission and generally some more details that would be great so I can add it to the first post.
Mike Gamble posted on twitter earlier that the next patch is being dropped tomorrow so hopefully a lot more issues will be fixed.
@iFail_v_B34STLY, we can hope. I so want MEA to be good, but I think theres too many issues and everyone is just going to forget about it. You really couldn't blame anyone for doing so. It will be a test to see just how much Bioware and EA really care about MEA.
I used to love Mass Effect, MEA has released with so many bugs and balancing issues it has completely ruined the game for me and thats not even getting to things like the dodgy animations, random FPS tanking for no reason (especially on the Tempest) and poorly written story with uninspired musical score.
Prove my suspicions wrong Bioware, show you care about Mass Effect.
FYI folks I checked metacritic earlier today the PC version of MEA has a rather unimpressive 73 critic score and 4.9 rating user score. Ouch.
@ketxxx tomorrow's patch will probably say :
1. nomad shield crafting quest reported fixed.
2. minor bug issues.
and with that we will have to wait for another 3 months for them to start moving their * to fix all the problems.
I want to know when the MAJOR bugs are being addressed, even if they just write down that they are looking into it, or that they solved it and it is ready for release on next patch.
I don't care, I just want to know.
I do agree with you though, this ME game ruined the series for me as well. but hey, I am back to playing ME1 so GO SHEPARD!!
@Xx-Gimmle-xXI bloody hope not! If it does all it will show is that the animators have been working their arses off for the cutscenes (supposedly theres going to be heavy work on them thats ongoing) while the rest of the team has sat around with their thumbs up their arses and not bothered with any bug fixing. Also Bioware, I'll say it plain, graphically MEA looks sh!t this is Frostbite3 you are using you should be utterly ashamed of how 70% of this game looks.
Also, I forgot to mention it in my last post but critics went WAY too easy on MEA, not many reviewers had the balls to call it out for what it is but I'm glad a few did at least.
FYI guys the MEA patch is coming down for me now. Its 1.29GB. You can fix a lot of bugs in a patch that size... but probably not animations. We shall see. For the love of god the falling through levels and weapon balancing issues better be fixed.
Patch Notes for 1.06:
http://blog.bioware.com/2017/05/09/mass-effect-andromeda-patch-1-06-notes/
Combat Balance for 1.06
http://blog.bioware.com/2017/05/09/patch-1-06-combat-balance-updates/
Looks like they patched quite a bit, not all of the issues listed here but a good number of items including a few we didn't post.
@Pyro411 Most of those patch notes are piddly things it would seem but perhaps theres a bunch of issues fixed but not listed. No mention of a fix for * like falling through the level when melee attacking or any mention about weapon balancing in single player, only multiplayer. In all honesty the amount of stuff they fixed in what is it now? 2 months? Is really not that much.
Let's try to be positive though... who hasn't had their will to play this game completely squashed and can test the patch with a standard game and NG+? I'll be able to removed fixed problems from the first post then.
