The poor guy, so many seem to not like him. So what I want to know is who out there does like him and what you like about him..
Haters can stay away please! Just Liam positive here. One thread in which he doesn't end up bashed in.. you can give us that.
The first thing I thought was sweet, was Liam sleeping on the floor in SAM node right at the begining when he barely even knew Ryder. A sign of someone who cares about others no matter what.
@Nykara360 wrote:I wouldn't expect anything less though from someone who can't seem to wrap their heads around a character like Liam.
Now, now, you are being very gross to people who are not in agreement with your point of view. I haven't even posted in this thread because it was clear that it seemed you just wanted to read what you wanted to read, but you cannot avoid others to state otherwise and shouldn't condescend others like that.
In my county, Liam would have been arrested, for example, and I would concur with it. My views on him is that he places loyalty above all else, and that really doesn't work, neither in a civilian nor military community. What I think Liam was written around is that he considers the protagonist as being Alec still, someone that will put whatever fire anyone starts and, perhaps, overwrite chain of commands, if necessary. What's left to ponder for me is if Liam acts like that because he places too much store on our character, or if he does things like that because, in spite of his good intentions and loyalty, he knows he'll get away with it knowing Ryder is 'soft': I'm simply very sure that Alec wouldn't have this mess happening around him, no matter what.
Keep it civil guys, Liam is a interesting subject to discus, I would hate it to close this thread because the discussion goes below the belt.
"lol" is not exactly a grown up form of response. You have every right to have an different opinion about Liam as @Nykara360 has, (As I have too.) but do not attack him personally just because of that.
@holger1405 wrote:Keep it civil guys, Liam is a interesting subject to discuses, I would hate it to close this thread because the discussion goes below the belt.
"lol" is not exactly a grown up form of response. You have every right to have an different opinion about Liam as @Nykara360 has, (As I have too.) but do not attack him personally just because of that.
Slightly off topic, but I like your Tennyson quote. Is there a way for me to add something like that to my posts?🙂
@rugster wrote:As I said before, I like Liam for his attitude to life.. just wish he could be customised abit more. True of the entire team, first run through I only used Draak and Vetra the entire game after Eos. Now I'll sometimes get Cora or Peebee to join in, Jaal on Voeld and Havarl, but for the most part, never Liam. I have been using him abit on Eldaaren but not much, his skills.. aren't really useful.
Well, I think that his attittude to life is very questionable. I mean, he does things without thinking and he has a positive vision that he rides other people's waves for to get there. He's like yeah it's gonna be great and while you save the universe I'll sit here on my couch half naked and think of ways I can get the team in trouble. And of course if you need me to tag along I'll come. Just seems that he has no initiative except to do something historically stupid.
So tell me, what do you see as positive about his attitude because apparently I'm missing something here?
@PandaTar wrote:
@Nykara360 wrote:I wouldn't expect anything less though from someone who can't seem to wrap their heads around a character like Liam.
Now, now, you are being very gross to people who are not in agreement with your point of view. I haven't even posted in this thread because it was clear that it seemed you just wanted to read what you wanted to read, but you cannot avoid others to state otherwise and shouldn't condescend others like that.
In my county, Liam would have been arrested, for example, and I would concur with it. My views on him is that he places loyalty above all else, and that really doesn't work, neither in a civilian nor military community. What I think Liam was written around is that he considers the protagonist as being Alec still, someone that will put whatever fire anyone starts and, perhaps, overwrite chain of commands, if necessary. What's left to ponder for me is if Liam acts like that because he places too much store on our character, or if he does things like that because, in spite of his good intentions and loyalty, he knows he'll get away with it knowing Ryder is 'soft': I'm simply very sure that Alec wouldn't have this mess happening around him, no matter what.
No.
It has nothing to do with his opinion of said character. I was simply matching a personal attack with another, which I normally avoid doing, until someone catches me on a bad day and I feel like defending myself instead of pretending its all good.
@holger1405 wrote:Keep it civil guys, Liam is a interesting subject to discuses, I would hate it to close this thread because the discussion goes below the belt.
"lol" is not exactly a grown up form of response. You have every right to have an different opinion about Liam as @Nykara360 has, (As I have too.) but do not attack him personally just because of that.
At this point, the thread needs to be locked.
Apparently the question of who likes Liam and what they like about him wasn't clear enough that all the people who dislike the character felt the need to do what I asked not to be done.
@Nykara360 wrote:
@holger1405 wrote:Keep it civil guys, Liam is a interesting subject to discuses, I would hate it to close this thread because the discussion goes below the belt.
"lol" is not exactly a grown up form of response. You have every right to have an different opinion about Liam as @Nykara360 has, (As I have too.) but do not attack him personally just because of that.
At this point, the thread needs to be locked.
Apparently the question of who likes Liam and what they like about him wasn't clear enough that all the people who dislike the character felt the need to do what I asked not to be done.
Sometimes threads go off topic, especially when discussing controversial events and characters that people hold strong views about, such as I Like Sloane. It may be worth it to just roll with the punches and fight your corner. If you do it right you may change some minds or at least have a fun debate.😎
Anyway, Liam's a nice, well-meaning guy, but if Tann ever gets wind of what he has been up to/decides to stop placating Ryder then Liam will be exiled.
Honestly though, if there is an anti-Cerberus, bloody, homicidal, ruthless, at-all-costs terrorists out to ensure everyone just gets along, Liam definitely works for them.😉
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I'm sorry. ☹️ I "feel" with you. But the problem is, that he is really, really a hated character. And a lot of people don't understand his behaivor. It have nothing to do with your personality. I thing you are a very nice person, when you write something here in the forum it's always interesting and I like to read it. ❤️
Normal situation after the release of a Bioware game: A lot of (young) men start to hate the "most famous (or the only) romance for straight females". Happen at every Bioware game until now. 😃 Jealous like hell. Lot of this haters are young (of course not all of them). 😉 But with Liam, it's NOT like this.
This time it is something else. I would say: He is the most hated Bioware character EVER. 👮 And if you start a "Love thread" about sutch a hated character it could happen that the people overreact a bit .... there is a lot of Liam-hate around. You understand?
*HUG's for you*
Put your shirt on mate! Conversing with him half-naked is quite disturbing.
