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Re: New patch?

Really wonder if the game isn't abandoned yet.

The last patch was on June 7.

I was waiting for patching of two games: ME:LE and Cyberpunk 2077.

The patch for CP2077 was released recently after a month of testing. Also there was a hacker attack on CD Project RED, the same COVID limitations on working from offices, etc, but the patch is here nevertheless.

I can't see why Bioware is completely silent, and, according to SteamDB, no patch is tested right now.

I can't get rid of the thought that the situation with LE is similar to Warcraft 3: Reforged, which is already abandoned.

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  • @ELevinThey sold 4 million copies, they got great reviews, so they will do not care about the problems of “5 people” on a forum. That’s it. ☹️

  • Feels like they just dont care. They cant even have balls to say "There is no more support planned" 

  • draconiam's avatar
    draconiam
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago
    @Jaysamule Of course they have made official statements, they are: "Buy our merch to pay for the next ME game which will likely not even acknowledge your OT choices unless Liara is your LI."
  • At this point I just wish they’d say  something. This silence isn’t helping just be nice to know if this game is getting patched or not. 

  • @ELevinI really happy about this success, I wanted this to be a big success, for the sake of the franchise‘s future. But if they do not respect the hardcore fans, and the quality standards of the franchise… I just hope they will do more for LE, because they can, this is just matter of respect… for the hardcore fans, and also for themselves and their own prior works.

  • @draconiam  Everyone deserves a quality product, but not everyone cares about enough, otherwise these LE bugs would been already fixed (or we would already know about the comming fixes), because of the community's negative response.

  • draconiam's avatar
    draconiam
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago
    @Ri-Go_HUN7 Yeah that's right, it amazes me the amount of people who still defend this edition to the end as they confuse their love of the characters for blind support.

  • @draconiam wrote:
    @Ri-Go_HUN7Yeah that's right, it amazes me the amount of people who still defend this edition to the end as they confuse their love of the characters for blind support.

     Ok, can we have a little reality check here? I just finished playing the LE on PC, all three games. And I can say that the vast majority of it is a smooth, seamless transition from the original games. Yes, there are some glitches and oddities in the LE. I think it's fair to expect another patch for LE to more fully iron out those issues. But on whole, those issues are nuisances, they're not game breaking. And those nuisances are few and far between. The closest thing to a game breaking issue was when achievements weren't working in ME2 on Xbox, since unlocking bonus powers was tied to getting achievements. That's probably why they released a hotfix for that issue specifically. And it appeared to only affect one platform, I never had issues with achievements playing on PC.

    Is that "blind support" of the LE? No, it's just a levelheaded perspective based on my own experience with the LE. And I can't say for sure, but I'm willing to bet the vast majority of people have had a similar experience as me. Because if there's one thing we know, it's that players can roast a game over bugs and glitches of they're there (see Cyberpunk 2077).

    If your experience with the LE was so bad that you're demanding another patch or you're never buying a Bioware game again...I don't know man. I didn't have the same experience was you.

    So, again, there are a few bugs still, it would be nice for Bioware to fix them, and it's fair to ask Bioware for another patch to fix them. It's not fair to act like the game is some kind of broken mess in its current state and that it's grossly incompetent or negligent if BioWare never provides another patch.

  • draconiam's avatar
    draconiam
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago
    @SSV_Enterprise One of the companies hired to work on the LE (2 other than Bioware) outright states that they won't provide technical support on games they don't directly publish and we are apperantly talking about the one responsible for the graphics and visuals (check my thread Legendary Edition makers), I am glad you had a wonderful experience and can have access to mods which did the work on the original releases fixing the games yet Bioware didn't implement some of those changes and fixes because apperantly they wanted a remaster and not a Remake (again check my thread to a link on an article as to why they didn't implement a ton of fixes that we are still complaining arraived in the LE).

    They went the easy route honestly and I don't have to hate the games or the LE to point out that Bioware should have invested more effort into this release.
  • Ri-Go_HUN7's avatar
    Ri-Go_HUN7
    4 years ago

    @SSV_Enterprise wrote:

    @draconiam wrote:
    @Ri-Go_HUN7Yeah that's right, it amazes me the amount of people who still defend this edition to the end as they confuse their love of the characters for blind support.

     Ok, can we have a little reality check here? I just finished playing the LE on PC, all three games. And I can say that the vast majority of it is a smooth, seamless transition from the original games. Yes, there are some glitches and oddities in the LE. I think it's fair to expect another patch for LE to more fully iron out those issues. But on whole, those issues are nuisances, they're not game breaking. And those nuisances are few and far between. The closest thing to a game breaking issue was when achievements weren't working in ME2 on Xbox, since unlocking bonus powers was tied to getting achievements. That's probably why they released a hotfix for that issue specifically. And it appeared to only affect one platform, I never had issues with achievements playing on PC.

    Is that "blind support" of the LE? No, it's just a levelheaded perspective based on my own experience with the LE. And I can't say for sure, but I'm willing to bet the vast majority of people have had a similar experience as me. Because if there's one thing we know, it's that players can roast a game over bugs and glitches of they're there (see Cyberpunk 2077).

    If your experience with the LE was so bad that you're demanding another patch or you're never buying a Bioware game again...I don't know man. I didn't have the same experience was you.

    So, again, there are a few bugs still, it would be nice for Bioware to fix them, and it's fair to ask Bioware for another patch to fix them. It's not fair to act like the game is some kind of broken mess in its current state and that it's grossly incompetent or negligent if BioWare never provides another patch.


    I hated ME2-3 LE first, because I love these games and I want a perfect version. LE is not the perfect version (but all the other versions has it’s own problems too, so…), but I was angry about LE’s issues about a little too much.

    My personal first experience with LE was bad: in ME3 (and maybe also in ME2, but I never experienced in ME2) there is a big gameplay bug: if a humanoid enemy falls to the ground from one of your powers, there is a chance may they can’t stand up, until receive some extra damage. Believe me, this ruined my gameplay experience as an adept, completely (on the second run with a soldier, I do not see often this bug… yet). And in ME2-3, there are several little or bigger visual glitches. These glitches can really hurth the cinematic nature of the games.

    So, LE is not broken at all, but if they do not fix the gameplay bug, what I mentioned before, and at least some of the bigger visual errors, then maybe this version is not for me, and I will return to the originals instead. Also, if they still stay silent about these problems, after the community requests on this forum, then maybe I'm not be curious about their future works, because of this not too community friendly attitude.

  • @draconiamYou know, there is noting new about Blind Squirrel Games and Abstraction Games involvement in LE’s development, with some research, anyone can know about for months from now. Outsourcing is not a new thing in the industry either, so please, do not link this page in every topic in this forum. This two company has nothing to do with BioWare’s silence or attitude, they are “just” contract workers.

    They did what the publisher/BioWare asked from them, and that’s it, that’s there part. The original PC version port of ME1 was made by Demiurge Studios, the PS3 version was made by Edge of Reality. As I said, there is nothing new about outsourcing parts of a porting projects like this. The blame on the publisher/original developers, because of the lack of the proper quality control and support after launch.

  • draconiam's avatar
    draconiam
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago
    @Ri-Go_HUN7 "The blame on the publisher/original developers, because of the lack of the proper quality control and support after launch." 100% agree, specially since most of the issues were already pointed out by feedback in their forums.
  • holger1405's avatar
    holger1405
    Hero+
    4 years ago

    @SSV_Enterprise 

    Thanks for that, a little perspective is always a good thing. 😉

    I agree completely and especially to your final sentence, for me the games are rock stable and very enjoyable.

    @draconiam 

    You should not spam the forum with links to your own thread, especially when that thread does nothing but state publicly available information.

  • draconiam's avatar
    draconiam
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago
    @holger1405 Thanks, MAKO already had a talk with me about that amd I appreciate you taking the time as well to contact me.
  • JoostinOnline's avatar
    JoostinOnline
    4 years ago

    @SSV_Enterprise wrote:

    If your experience with the LE was so bad that you're demanding another patch or you're never buying a Bioware game again...I don't know man. I didn't have the same experience was you.

    So, again, there are a few bugs still, it would be nice for Bioware to fix them, and it's fair to ask Bioware for another patch to fix them. It's not fair to act like the game is some kind of broken mess in its current state and that it's grossly incompetent or negligent if BioWare never provides another patch.


    My playthrough was definitely not as seemless as yours (most noticeably, I had trouble with motion sickness from the frequent and inexplicable frame rate plummets). That being said, for the most part you're right that the game isn't in such a horrible condition that it deserves to be compared to things like Cyberpunk. However, that's not really the issue.

    The issue is that Bioware told us to report bugs here, but has given zero feedback. Not even a "Noted, we're working on it". It feels like we were all sent to this forum just to keep us quiet and stop any bad press on the Steam forums. Whether that's true or not (and I'd like to think that it's not), Bioware has done nothing to suggest otherwise. That's definitely their fault. If they won't spend 10 minutes to pin a message saying they're working on fixes, then I doubt they're actually working to fix any of the new issues they introduced with the remaster.

  • draconiam's avatar
    draconiam
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago
    @JoostinOnline Well they did say they would listen, they never said anything on acting on feedback within reason. Go to the Steam page and report the issues there as well, this isn't healthy for any of us.
  • @holger1405

    How about we get some perspective to the numerous new bugs they introduced and have still not fixed?

    My page 3 post list still stands, among others:

    1. Aralakh Company & Xen war assets are missing, if it's intended I hope they let us know.

    2. Headshots not blowing heads off as they should in ME3 when mouse and keyboard are used.

    3. Radio animation bug: people put their hand on their heads as if they use a helmet or something, holding their arm very far from their head.

    4. Various animations, especially facial, missing from ME1 (e.g. eyelid movement) and ME2 (e.g. expressions), and ME3 (e.g. Shepard's helmet moves when talking issue) and so on.

    5. ME3 missing follow-up melee attack animations (fixed by a modder for the time being).

    6. Some solution for the lack of anti-aliasing, since even 4K has the games looking super jaggy, as well as shadow flickering issues.

    7. And so on. There are many bugs reported in this forum and detailed, including the ones mentioned above, plus more: ME1 sound issues, ME2 advanced training issues (?), ME3 shields issues, etc.

    -

    Please stop defending them by brushing off serious problems that did not exist to begin with. They advertised this as a remastered version "like you've never seen it before", and 3.5 months later they have neither communicated regarding fixing basic problems that seriously hinder gameplay, nor have presented a patch for any serious issue - so praising them for that they have already patched, which revolves exclusively on bugs they created, or claiming the gameplay is "rock solid" as it is, is plain asinine with a mountain of proof to the contrary.

    Also, do not get sidetracked by the small number of people, like me, who bother to waste their time on these forums trying alternative methods to productively inform the developers and possibly find solutions, there is a number of people who have had issues and just didn't bother to do something about it.

    The way they advertised the remastered version, as a better and improved graphical experience, and then abandoned it with such game-breaking issues some months later, is straight up false advertising and a breach of consumer trust. The watering down I am reading from some people in here is as infuriating as the ignorance they present regarding EA's responsibilities towards its advertised product. The shields and audio issues are pretty game-breaking - and for me, personally, the headshot, animations, and war assets issues are straight up as game-breaking due to how they break immersion.

    And before anyone says these are neither game-breaking nor break consumer trust via false advertising; they straight up advertised on their platforms and other media that the game can run up to 240 frames per second, the fact that shields do not regenerate properly under said framerates is a clear and definite breach of both. I will not sit to list and analyze every little false advertisement they conducted, because there are many, make no mistake about that.

    Furthermore, nobody but new players have the expectation of fixing decade old bugs. Old fans, we know better, I suppose - although, we should all expect fixes here and there, this being the "remastered" version and all. But, at this point, they should at the very least fix every single bug they created which did not exist in the originals, and bring the game on par with the title "remastered". Therefore, do not use this as an excuse to sidetrack conversation making us seem like we have unreasonable demands, it is insulting.

    Lastly, providing us with small bug-fixes for the Remastered version, like Turifying Elanos Haliat, one of the many bug-fixes ME1 Recalibrated has had (and more than the Legendary Edition has in total), while also only adding higher resolution textures to Mass Effect 2 and 3, is no reason to be thankful, it is the absolute bare minimum.

    As a consumer, I feel betrayed for being preyed upon my nostalgia and emotions. I care not for the ridiculousness of some posts here: I will not bother myself too much arguing in forums like this one, nor try to take legal action, I am just not buying again - a simple and reasonable sentiment, shared by some of my peers.

  • draconiam's avatar
    draconiam
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago

    @fabulisth0I hear Halo 3 is still getting new multiplayer maps but that game is still the center piece of Microsoft Studios bucks.

    Edit: I agree with your sentiment but let us not start a battle amongst ourselves, direct the anger toward EA/Bioware.

  • holger1405's avatar
    holger1405
    Hero+
    4 years ago

    @fabulisth0 


    FabulistH0 wrote:

    @holger1405

    Please stop defending them by brushing off serious problems that did not exist to begin with.


    I said it before, I don't see really serious problems within the Mele, and with all due respect, I will state my opinion as long as I like.
    You disagree? That's fine, but don't try to tell me what I can and can't do on this board.

    It is you prerogative to feel "betrayed" or whatever you state of mind is, and you stated a valid option for people that feel the same way, just don't buy other games again, but you have no right whatsoever to call post of other users ridiculous just because we have a different opinion. 

    Edit:Typo

  • AlistairAB's avatar
    AlistairAB
    4 years ago

    @fabulisth0For me they have improved a lot, and fixed many things, and so in almost all respects it is much better than what we had before (remember they are starting from somewhere). I just want the quickbar crash to desktop when using a mouse in ME2 fixed, that's the kind of bug that makes me stop playing after the 5th crash. I would also like to be able to select my resolution in ME2, currently it is broken and you have to edit an .ini to get the game to launch properly.

  • draconiam's avatar
    draconiam
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago

    Hello, I contacted EA Help and the chat agent told me there was no official word on a future patch but to keep posted for any update:

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