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It could be possible. They should still have Alec's body.
1. Cerberus could pop in later on, and clone him. lol
2. Benefactor could be implicated in his cloning. You never know.
3. Remnants can create life and play with genetics. This could be more interesting than Cerberus or Benefactor.
The thing is, Alec would have to play a secondary role since main protagonist is one of his kids.
Maybe Alec's purpose was to see one of his kids take over his role so he could focus on other stuff. However, it didn't seem his death was an intended accident.
Or, they killed him off because the voice actor was too expensive. 🤔
@draqonin wrote:It could be possible. They should still have Alec's body.
1. Cerberus could pop in later on, and clone him. lol
2. Benefactor could be implicated in his cloning. You never know.
3. Remnants can create life and play with genetics. This could be more interesting than Cerberus or Benefactor.
The thing is, Alec would have to play a secondary role since main protagonist is one of his kids.
Maybe Alec's purpose was to see one of his kids take over his role so he could focus on other stuff. However, it didn't seem his death was an intended accident.
Or, they killed him off because the voice actor was too expensive. 🤔
We may or may not have Alec's body somewhere. Whether Alec's body is around, or just listed as stored, cremated, etc. makes a lot of difference. The fact that we don't see Alec after we pass out on Habitat 7, along with Alec's general paranoid over-prepared Alecness, has helped fuel the speculation that he isn't dead, and was just gaming everyone. Of course, if he IS still alive he will probably of his own "faction" rather than Tempest crew, etc.🤓
The whole thing makes me think of Liam Neeson's Col. Hannibal Smith escaping from prison. "So Satan walks into a bar..."👿😉
- EgoMania8 years agoSeasoned Ace
Although I would agree that it's an unlikely scenario, I will not underestimate BioWare's obscene obsession with raising people back from the dead as a story gimmick.
Ryder already died a couple of times and came back right?
If you've played SWTOR you'll know what I mean when I mention Revan, Valkorion and Kephess. Their multiple ressurrections have become running gags and to me it's just a testament to BioWare's inability to continue good story writing.
Personally I feel that BioWare is just repeating tricks that were once successful and are not looking too well at the law of diminishing returns. The truth probably is that BioWare was never really good at writing stories but rather at making compelling characters and interactions. DA:I fell flat for me because the companions were not compelling to me. ME:A is better for me because I actually do like a few of the companions and crew.
Anyways. I don't expect Alec to come back because I would not want him to come back as it would cheapen the story. In essence, even though she never truly died, Ellen already got the ressurrection treatment and for Alec to also get it would just be blah. Having said that, I don't put it past BioWare. It's something they could very well do, just because that's what's their story telling has been reduced to. I mean, as much as I have enjoyed playing ME:A, I suspect few people will actually say that the main story was really amazing and inspiring.
- 8 years ago
@EgoMania wrote:Although I would agree that it's an unlikely scenario, I will not underestimate BioWare's obscene obsession with raising people back from the dead as a story gimmick.
Ryder already died a couple of times and came back right?
If you've played SWTOR you'll know what I mean when I mention Revan, Valkorion and Kephess. Their multiple ressurrections have become running gags and to me it's just a testament to BioWare's inability to continue good story writing.
Personally I feel that BioWare is just repeating tricks that were once successful and are not looking too well at the law of diminishing returns. The truth probably is that BioWare was never really good at writing stories but rather at making compelling characters and interactions. DA:I fell flat for me because the companions were not compelling to me. ME:A is better for me because I actually do like a few of the companions and crew.
Anyways. I don't expect Alec to come back because I would not want him to come back as it would cheapen the story. In essence, even though she never truly died, Ellen already got the ressurrection treatment and for Alec to also get it would just be blah. Having said that, I don't put it past BioWare. It's something they could very well do, just because that's what's their story telling has been reduced to. I mean, as much as I have enjoyed playing ME:A, I suspect few people will actually say that the main story was really amazing and inspiring.
Honestly, I liked DAI's story and companions for the most part, and was ok with Revan's KOTOR resurrection. Just to provide an alternative view. And if they decide that Alec isn't dead I think they provided enough of a platform for it that it would be believable. If you think there is more to add put it here OR here
- EgoMania8 years agoSeasoned Ace
People will have different opinions on what they like or not but I just hate that this has become a gimmick that they just keep pulling out of the hat because apparently they can't come up with something better.
It's something that's happened so often in stories that I just don't really believe it anymore and so if you play a character who loses their father but in the back of your head you know he might not be dead, it bypasses the sense of loss entirely. And if in the end he doesn't come back then it doesn't really matter anymore. I like when stories take you along in an emotion but when cynicism takes over because BioWare fuels that cynicism by overusing story telling crutches, then it's a real shame to me.
You were ok with Revan's ressurrection. I don't even know what that means, but it doesn't give me the feeling you felt it was a great plot twist, just acceptable. I just felt that the whole story line after the vanilla game was just one disaster after another. Again, my opinion though I was clearly not alone in that view.
Whatever the reason though, I find BioWare's stories becoming less and less compelling. It just seems to stay around the same level and doesn't evolve. Different characters but in the end after the bug fixes what really sets ME:A apart from the original trilogy for me is that I don't feel as involved and engaged in the story. I had that problem in DA:I as well. The overarching story was pretty good still but I just didn't care about the characters around me.
Doesn't mean the games are terribly bad but I miss feeling pulled into the story and actually caring what happens to my companions.
- Anonymous8 years ago
@EgoMania wrote:Although I would agree that it's an unlikely scenario, I will not underestimate BioWare's obscene obsession with raising people back from the dead as a story gimmick.
Ryder already died a couple of times and came back right?
If you've played SWTOR you'll know what I mean when I mention Revan, Valkorion and Kephess. Their multiple ressurrections have become running gags and to me it's just a testament to BioWare's inability to continue good story writing.
Personally I feel that BioWare is just repeating tricks that were once successful and are not looking too well at the law of diminishing returns. The truth probably is that BioWare was never really good at writing stories but rather at making compelling characters and interactions. DA:I fell flat for me because the companions were not compelling to me. ME:A is better for me because I actually do like a few of the companions and crew.
Anyways. I don't expect Alec to come back because I would not want him to come back as it would cheapen the story. In essence, even though she never truly died, Ellen already got the ressurrection treatment and for Alec to also get it would just be blah. Having said that, I don't put it past BioWare. It's something they could very well do, just because that's what's their story telling has been reduced to. I mean, as much as I have enjoyed playing ME:A, I suspect few people will actually say that the main story was really amazing and inspiring.
The thing is though, Ellen never did die. Alec sent her into cryo hoping that one day scientists could save her and find a cure. His thoughts were probably along the lines of, "Maybe there's an alien species in Andromeda that has or will have the science to help us. He then blocked that fact from his children. You know they would've brought her out of hibernation so they could cope with their own grief of losing Alec, which wouldn't have been fair to anyone.
- EgoMania8 years agoSeasoned Ace
@FutureSwagForce wrote:The thing is though, Ellen never did die
This point is completely irrelevant. Whether it's a matter of presumed dead or really dead and being ressurrected, the gimmick is the same: you thought someone was dead and presto, here they are again.
With Ellen I didn't mind so much because it was well done, but they should've left it at that. Having your Ryder die and be brought back was just unnecessary. And if Alec also comes back from the dead (because let's be honest, we don't reallly know if he died all the way or not), then it's just pure, lazy writing. It gets cheapened with each instance especially if it's within the same game.
- 8 years ago
@fudgietroll wrote:
@draqonin wrote:We may or may not have Alec's body somewhere. Whether Alec's body is around, or just listed as stored, cremated, etc. makes a lot of difference. The fact that we don't see Alec after we pass out on Habitat 7, along with Alec's general paranoid over-prepared Alecness, has helped fuel the speculation that he isn't dead, and was just gaming everyone. Of course, if he IS still alive he will probably of his own "faction" rather than Tempest crew, etc.🤓
The whole thing makes me think of Liam Neeson's Col. Hannibal Smith escaping from prison. "So Satan walks into a bar..."👿😉
LOOOL ...."and the bartender asks him: -What's the name of my bar?"
But yes, he could be still alive, staying in the shadow and working on finding a cure, and who knows what else. In a way, not that you mention it, makes me think of those memory triggers. ..hmmmm... how did those get spread all over the places? That's a cool twist.
That'd be something cool, someone (mysterious) feeding some intel every now and then. :eahigh_file: