A buddy made this video. Aljo keeps asking for video of stuff. Here's a great one for you 🙂 [Video removed for immediate profanity - Admin.]EDIT: Video was removed for profanity, wow. Speechless.If anyone wants to see the video just look up NHL 23: The Worst NHL Game Ever? on youtube. The user who posted it is named llampen NHL

@Nammer604 I only made it halfway through before it became too frustrating to watch. Within the first minute alone, I saw enough of this games flaws to want to rage quit watching a yt vid. Lol. It's ridiculous that nothing has been done with all the feedback this year. Almost all comments I read EVERYWHERE are negative but this is the year gameplay gets left alone and they cancel tuners? It just doesn't make sense and isn't fair to us in the least bit. The biggest takeaway I got from the vid is how offense always gets the advantage on loose pucks.You poke the puck only for it to unrealistically take a weird route right to their teammates. Or the off player will reach through bodies to get it before the def man who's feet it's between can grab it. Or how about when. You lay a hit, and he somehow gets up, shakes off the hit and keeps going with the puck while your def player stares at it deciding if he wants it or not. What's sad is these aren't even new complaints. Most of this has existed for several years,...generations even.

I don't want to just call "bad defending" but incidental contact was heavily nerfed a game or two ago so that's why the carrier is maintaining possession as easily as they are.That said, I fully agree loose pucks and hitting are in a horrible place right now - I honestly don't see the series getting any better without MAJOR shakeups to EA's decision makers and coding team.

@EA_Aljo Here's the thing though: I won't speak for others but when I was freaking out about the "week 1 reversion patch" every year, it was because I always enjoyed what you did in the beta and hated that the first patch threw away every change y'all made and turned it back into, essentially, a $90 stat wipe. This year when the team decided "hey, everyone hates when we patch stuff so let's not do anything at all" - the year we absolutely, positively, objectionably NEEDED that patch - It leaves me totally flabbergasted.Like, it honestly could not have taken the dev team an entire year's worth of time/money/effort to do what we got... That's why I get so heated. Like, instead of just reverting the game back to a previous state or not doing anything at all, I find it weird how the team doesn't want to/can't just sit in a room and discuss ways to making meaningful improvements...As for the old forum discussions and stuff - I am willing to take some of the blame but not all of it. This was a 50/50 situation that got out of hand. What I got out of most of that was how according to some people, the game was running the way it was supposed to and it was the community that wasn't doing things right (and that my team just needs to "get better"). I would like to suggest the community and dev team start a discussion here under the guise of "aliens are invading earth so we must all set aside our differences for the greater good (of NHL)".Regardless of all the full sim and arcade stuff, NHL, as a video game, just isn't up to par.

@EA_Aljo You said that you watched that video right? Everything in there and forced cross creases that go right through my stick blade, feet, body etc....Offense has always been favored in this game but this years edition is just beyond frustrating when trying to defend. I feel really bad for full time d men because you basically took away 2 of their most effective tools to defend.I play a lot and I also play in competitive leagues (WOHL, LG for west coast players). Myself and everyone that I know who are good players say the EXACT same thing.This game just isn't fun and frustrating to play. We only play it because we love hockey and don't have any other alternative.EA is lucky that they're the only one's making hockey because if they had competition and a developer that listened, gave CONSTANT feedback/communication and made changes that we asked for, A LOT of us wouldn't hesitate to jump ship.I'm sick and tired of saying the same thing year after year. Instead of focusing on core GAMEPLAY that functions PROPERLY, they keep adding in gimmicky things that no one is asking for. You wonder why the same things are broken year after year, it's because they're never fixed properly and more stuff is added into an already broken game. The code is so jumbled and massive that of course when you "fix" something, something else ends up being broken in the process.

The blueline poke at 0:46 is the most NHL 23 thing ever. Perfect poke check against the grain of a player caught flat footed and the puck goes NOWHERE. Then an auto-animation takes place so that player can quickly regain possession. This game is an absolute joke. As a competitive player, who am I playing against more? Another player's skill or the mechanics of the game?

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Nammer604
Seasoned Adventurer
3 years ago
@EA_Aljo You said that you watched that video right? Everything in there and forced cross creases that go right through my stick blade, feet, body etc....

Offense has always been favored in this game but this years edition is just beyond frustrating when trying to defend. I feel really bad for full time d men because you basically took away 2 of their most effective tools to defend.

I play a lot and I also play in competitive leagues (WOHL, LG for west coast players). Myself and everyone that I know who are good players say the EXACT same thing.
This game just isn't fun and frustrating to play. We only play it because we love hockey and don't have any other alternative.

EA is lucky that they're the only one's making hockey because if they had competition and a developer that listened, gave CONSTANT feedback/communication and made changes that we asked for, A LOT of us wouldn't hesitate to jump ship.

I'm sick and tired of saying the same thing year after year. Instead of focusing on core GAMEPLAY that functions PROPERLY, they keep adding in gimmicky things that no one is asking for. You wonder why the same things are broken year after year, it's because they're never fixed properly and more stuff is added into an already broken game. The code is so jumbled and massive that of course when you "fix" something, something else ends up being broken in the process.
Kmahrle83
Rising Veteran
3 years ago
@Nammer604 wrote:
@EA_AljoYou said that you watched that video right? Everything in there and forced cross creases that go right through my stick blade, feet, body etc....

Offense has always been favored in this game but this years edition is just beyond frustrating when trying to defend. I feel really bad for full time d men because you basically took away 2 of their most effective tools to defend.

I play a lot and I also play in competitive leagues (WOHL, LG for west coast players). Myself and everyone that I know who are good players say the EXACT same thing.
This game just isn't fun and frustrating to play. We only play it because we love hockey and don't have any other alternative.

EA is lucky that they're the only one's making hockey because if they had competition and a developer that listened, gave CONSTANT feedback/communication and made changes that we asked for, A LOT of us wouldn't hesitate to jump ship.

I'm sick and tired of saying the same thing year after year. Instead of focusing on core GAMEPLAY that functions PROPERLY, they keep adding in gimmicky things that no one is asking for. You wonder why the same things are broken year after year, it's because they're never fixed properly and more stuff is added into an already broken game. The code is so jumbled and massive that of course when you "fix" something, something else ends up being broken in the process.
This right here. They're so busy trying to make a new flashing mechanic to put on the box as a selling point that they completely neglect the broken stuff they leave in the game from last year in the two years before that. Stop trying to add crap nobody wants or asks for it and fix the things we have been asking for for years. What good is adding new stuff to the game if it is already broken when you add it, and you are adding it on top of already broken mechanics that you refuse to fix? It's no wonder this game is in the state it's in. Terrible management.
Nammer604
Seasoned Adventurer
3 years ago
@Kmahrle83 Exactly! You wanna market something BIG for NHL 24, EA? How about marketing that the game works PROPERLY and things WORK as they should and don't add in a single damn new feature. Let us be the judge in the beta and speak with our wallets then. I don't need no fancy college degree or 6 figure salary to come up with that idea, yet you have people who make these decisions and are so out of touch with your buyers. KEEP IT SIMPLE and fix the damn GAMEPLAY, make it work PROPERLY. How does that sound?
KlariskraysNHL
Hero
3 years ago
@Nammer604 Well full crossplay is part of the goal for NHL 24. HUT will be getting a slight changeup. Stick Lifting will be addressed. Player traits will get tuned up/down. And 5 bugs will be fixed offline that create 10 new ones.
Limp_KidzKit
3 years ago
@EA_Aljo wrote:
@Nammer604 wrote:
@FloundinatorQQTotally agree. When do you everything right and still get screwed, it's no fun. I find myself battling the completely broken mechanics of this years game more than any other NHL game EVER!
Can you go in to detail on which mechanics are broken?
most:
Ai in general (positing, cheating game mechanics)
strategies (nonsensical options, not even executed properly)
puck physics
hitting physics
net physics
skating physics
stick lifting (new for 23!)
action tracker deleting goals
sliders - game plays different without touching a slider...been an issue since at least nhl 19
1, 2, 4, 6 - been on this list for 20 years
3 - been on the list every year but 15 when all content was removed for great puck physics for a year
5 - 2nd year in a row or 3rd?
8 - 2nd year now
9 - at least its 5th straight appearance
Kmahrle83
Rising Veteran
3 years ago
@Limp_KidzKit wrote:
@EA_Aljo wrote:
@Nammer604 wrote:
@FloundinatorQQTotally agree. When do you everything right and still get screwed, it's no fun. I find myself battling the completely broken mechanics of this years game more than any other NHL game EVER!
Can you go in to detail on which mechanics are broken?
most:
Ai in general (positing, cheating game mechanics)
strategies (nonsensical options, not even executed properly)
puck physics
hitting physics
net physics
skating physics
stick lifting (new for 23!)
action tracker deleting goals
sliders - game plays different without touching a slider...been an issue since at least nhl 19
1, 2, 4, 6 - been on this list for 20 years
3 - been on the list every year but 15 when all content was removed for great puck physics for a year
5 - 2nd year in a row or 3rd?
8 - 2nd year now
9 - at least its 5th straight appearance
These will not be fixed. Not until management figures out a way to monetize game fixes imo. That's how low we've gotten here.
Nammer604
Seasoned Adventurer
3 years ago
@Kmahrle83 yeah, It's not looking good at all. EA continues to keep their archaic method of communicating only when something has actually been worked and published. We're going to keep getting silence from them and more people are going to be angry and leave this game. They know how frustrated people are with this years game yet they don't feel the need to acknowledge any of it. Great customer service!
Nammer604
Seasoned Adventurer
3 years ago
Patch 1.5 today but addressed nothing in this video LMMFAO. All issues are still relevant as ever. Great job EA, keep up the stellar job that you're doing
TheUnusedCrayon
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@Nammer604 wrote:
Patch 1.5 today but addressed nothing in this video LMMFAO
@Nammer604I'm sure patch 1.6 will solve it.
Nammer604
Seasoned Adventurer
3 years ago
@TheUnusedCrayonif you mean NHL 24, that's a possibility. It'll just be marketed as a new feature "Brand new stick lift mechanics like never before, it actually works now!"
I'm not holding my breathe. This company refuses to be transparent and only communicates changes after it's been patched in. We're left in the dark as usual. This is how they choose to be, they see that we're frustrated but choose not to change anything on their end. Until they have competition that affects their sales and bottom line, nothing is going to change. They're just laughing all the way to the bank

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