Presentation Removed in NHL 23
A cont. of the previous thread which has now been locked: https://answers.ea.com/t5/General-Discussion-News/presentation-doesn-t-Work-For-Nhl-23/m-p/12089563#M6443 We have to keep this construct...
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@EA_Aljo Sorry I should have specified the bugs I was talking about that aren’t actually in the HUT mode. I was talking about bugs that have been in offline mode for years, such as the broken dialogues in the be a pro modes, and failed coach challenges/inaccurate challenges, sim crashing and so on. And modes like franchise mode with sim crashes, trade value issues, CPU team logic issues like good teams blowing up rosters because of a mediocre season, the awful sim engine where a 80ovr team will claim president trophy while the 93ovr team is bottom of standings because crappy sim engine, the really bad prospect generation, including bonkers names that won’t fit nation of origin, and attributes that don’t fit the play type, the coaches issue and I mean you get the idea
All of those bugs and broken pieces are exclusive to the offline modes, and have hardly been touched in years because of the neglect
The entire game suffers from the poor AI, poor goalies, and poor defensive mechanics
That’s why offline should have its OWN AI, because we have to rely on it whereas HUT/EASHL specifically has “dumbed down” AI to prevent humans from relying on it to be good.
Offline players NEED it to be good because in be a pro you can’t control them, and franchise mode you only control 1 skater at a time and have to rely on them. I think you’ll understand what I mean so I won’t delve further into that
The offline game modes suffer because usually only bugs that affect the entire game are fixed, which is good, but very few bugs are fixed on the offline modes because they are hardly an afterthought and this compounds yearly
All of those bugs and broken pieces are exclusive to the offline modes, and have hardly been touched in years because of the neglect
The entire game suffers from the poor AI, poor goalies, and poor defensive mechanics
That’s why offline should have its OWN AI, because we have to rely on it whereas HUT/EASHL specifically has “dumbed down” AI to prevent humans from relying on it to be good.
Offline players NEED it to be good because in be a pro you can’t control them, and franchise mode you only control 1 skater at a time and have to rely on them. I think you’ll understand what I mean so I won’t delve further into that
The offline game modes suffer because usually only bugs that affect the entire game are fixed, which is good, but very few bugs are fixed on the offline modes because they are hardly an afterthought and this compounds yearly
EA_Aljo
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Community ManagerThanks for clearing that up. Definitely appreciate the feedback.
It’s extremely clear that this decision was not well received. Look at the volume of discussion across two threads on the subject (one already closed) compared to any other topic on the forum.
I’ve laid out of this for a bit since discussion dwindled down, but just want to reiterate that I’m hoping for a big response to this in NHL 24.
And once again they didn’t fix the True Broadcast camera after literally NOBODY asked for a change in the first place. It’s almost like they’re trying to aggravate their fan base.
- @ThreeKing And doing an excellent job of it! This has been an infuriating saga this year with this series!
I played NHL Hitz Pro on the weekend. For reference this game is from 2003. The presentation (intros, replays, etc) are all better then NHL 23.
- @Strictly60s It will certainly be interesting to see the sales numbers for nhl 24. I know i won't be buying and I'm the one that convinces my friends to buy it. If just a few hundred people are like me they will be losing a ton of money due to lack of progress/ communication. This series is dying. Hopefully another company can come in and take NHL.
- @rsandersr47 They deserve a response from the customers, but my fear this kind of response doing only less. NHL 24 after that all in presentation it is no option for me cause no positive developing in offline modes too.
I have to add a comment to this thread. I just started playing this game, and I was absolutely shocked to find that the presentation I expect from EA NHL games is just not there. Just a few seconds of pre-game? A quick celebration and one replay after a goal and then immediately back to the faceoff? Where is the realistic TV presentation any decent modern sports game has? Half the fun of these games for me is seeing that realistic broadcast quality, seeing a decent celebration and several replays after a goal, seeing replays of good hits, having a little time between whistles. Removing these feels like stripping the game down to its bare bones. It doesn't feel worth the money I paid for it.
If this isn't fixed in a patch, this will be the last EA game I purchase.
It doesn't even seem like it would be a difficult fix either. All of the things I'm talking about are still technically in the game, they're just way, way too short. Why not just add the option of having them last a decent amount of time, like they used to? Like five or ten seconds of post-goal celebration instead of two or whatever it currently is? Three goal replays from different angles, like there used to be instead of just one? A few more seconds after the whistle? A bit more of the pre-game stuff that's already being shown? Is that really that difficult to do?
I'm just curious.
With games like the FIFA franchise, EA developed a progression plan that kept most of the new features they have been introducing at past games. A few changes and tweaks here and there but if you look at the presentation pack, it's undoubtedly one of the best sports game franchises out there.
Another example is NBA2K series. They keep the base solid and add new tweaks and features concisely, without breaking their game.
Now the question - why can't we have that for NHL? What's stopping EA and its developers from delivering a sports pack as good as we see with 2K and FIFA franchises?
Why remove cool features we had in past games?
Why change the True Broadcast camera AFTER people bought the game because of it?
Why market a full new presentation and make a lot of buzz around it only to deliver a much worse presentation package than the previous games? (to the point where there isn't presentation at all and it had to get fixed with patches)
So here's a constructive question to EA? What's happening? How can the community support you to deliver the best NHL experience for those who truly love hockey?
Please let us know how we can help.
- EA_Aljo
I very much appreciate the constructive question, but I don't have those answers for you. When we have news on this, we'll post an update.
Thank you! Much appreciated!
Again, there were so many cool features in the past games that faded away. The package could be really robust by now. Hockey deserves an awesome game in all levels.
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