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Re: Do we really need to suffer through another year of pokespam and LT-abuse?


@Jagavekov wrote:

I think a good tradeoff would be less auto aim when poking (especially from bad positioning like facing the wrong way) but more disruption from successful pokes, through a combination of more poke power and less superhuman puck pickup reactions from the puck carrier.


I can't count the number of good poke checks I've done and the puck carrier just picks the puck right up, or it goes to their teammate... if one successfully poke the puck away, you would think that whoever poked it away should have a better chance at picking the puck up. I had the yoink zone ability on for a while, I would sometimes get a successful stick lift, but rarely would I get possession of the puck (which I thought having that as a zone ability would help out more), but it would usually result in a penalty or both players staggering then the opponent just regaining the puck.

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  • PlayoffError's avatar
    PlayoffError
    Hero
    3 years ago

    The puck does seem glued to the offensive player a lot of the time. 

    Here the player is cleanly poked coming into the zone but he kicks the puck right back to his stick.  And it's not even the "kicked a loose puck to my stick" animation.  His normal skating stride just happened to kick the puck right where he needed it to go.  As an added bonus I guess the AI was so sure the puck was gone he felt safe spinning away from the play.

    And plays like this one happen all the time.  I'm cutting across the net and the backchecking defender does a good job of reading the play and putting a solid poke on the puck.  But it doesn't matter because the puck just follows me across for the easy goal.

    I wish I could say these are one-offs or rare plays, but the puck finding its way back to the offensive player after clean poke-checks is the norm rather than the exception.

  • KidShowtime1867's avatar
    KidShowtime1867
    Hero
    3 years ago

    @PlayoffError wrote:

    The puck does seem glued to the offensive player a lot of the time. 

    I wish I could say these are one-offs or rare plays, but the puck finding its way back to the offensive player after clean poke-checks is the norm rather than the exception.


    Great clips! Kudos to you for using examples where you benefited from the hiccup in poke checking when you know you shouldn't have. 

    The accuracy of the kick-puck-to-stick is ridiculous when the Offensive player has been poke checked. More importantly - it's quite obvious that the puck carrier is given an advantage when the puck is dislodged from their possession. 

    There needs to be a slight delay added from the time the puck is knocked loose to the time the player recognizes he/she no longer has possession so that they aren't instantly corralling the loose puck. 

  • NIHILISTWOLFE29's avatar
    NIHILISTWOLFE29
    Seasoned Veteran
    3 years ago

    I seriously cannot wrap my head around EA's logic for allowing AUTO AIM poke check spam. Rather than punish players who don't time their poke checks. They "slow down" the player that spams poke check? It doesn't do ANYTHING to fix the problem. 

    If someone is above average at defending. The auto aim poke check can take the puck away from any player. Protecting the puck, deking, flipping the puck in, dumping from the red line, driving to the net, etc etc. 

    All a player has to do is play relatively decent position and the poke check will automatically aim for where the puck is on the ice or their opponent's stick blade. 

    But wait! If you don't time a STICK LIFT properly. It ends up in a PENALTY. Makes sense, right? NOT FOR POKE CHECK! 

    All this does is make it so that players take advantage of poke check because it creates less of a risk than stick lift or hitting. If you're not positioned correctly, stick lift is a penalty 9/10. If you land a hit in the middle of the ice, your player takes your player more time to recover from delivering a hit than the hit player most of the time. That or the "suicide pass" is still a perfect pass and doesn't bounce after their laid out. Or better yet! Your hit BOUNCES off the player like nothing and they get an easy goal. 

    Sick of it.