So EA...is there any reason to think '24 will look/play any different than '23?

@rsandersr47FIFA/Soccer is the worlds most popular sport with it able to reach all areas. Especially in Europe and South America. So knowing they can reach a bigger audience is why they have invested so much and it pays off.

@EA_AljoCan you be more specific as to what is misinformation? I can pull articles.

The last game added..

Cross play.. but it was only half done. There are also posts about how the two games don't behave the same.. so I would suggest that means it's broken..

Added female skaters to HUT.. that's more of a roster update rather than anything new..

Updated the presentation.. what was added was extremely over hyped and upset a lot of people. 

Last chance puck movement (was Zegras flip added this year or last?) .. this was the big animation addition. I see it once every few games..

Made stick lifts pointless to try.. no updates were made, you've admitted to this in the past.

We still have constant dressing room kicks, freezing when leaving the dressing room, getting randomly booted in eliminator is still around..

@rsandersr47Well the NHL license can be had by anyone. I believe 2K when they changed their hockey game are the ones that put themselves out of the market losing too much of a share. Even if NHL was at its peak it would sell around 2mil copies.

Soccer is the most popular sport in the world, with an estimated following of 3.5 to 5 billion fans.

They estimate ice hockey around 2 billion fans.

FIFA sells over 10mil copies a year and it's not all that great of a game from year to year improvements.

Even in the state that NHL is in it should be selling around 3mil if we going by numbers, but it is nowhere close.

So EA has to invest in FIFA to control that market from competition with exclusive deals like crazy.

NHL doesn't do that exclusive stuff so until competition arises there isn't a need from a business standpoint imo to splurge.

2K put the NBA Live series out to pasture. They tried to comeback with NBA Live again but it was a case of wasted money cause you aren't gonna topple a giant. Now 2K is back to coasting in the fans eyes. You can see all the lovely posts https://www.reddit.com/r/NBA2k/

All of this just my opinions on how I see things.

let's add an entry threshold to this high one. It is difficult and incomprehensible for beginners. I started playing a few years ago, it's really a challenge. 

to start playing in the NHL, you have to really want to

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@EA_AljoCan you be more specific as to what is misinformation? I can pull articles.

The last game added..

Cross play.. but it was only half done. There are also posts about how the two games don't behave the same.. so I would suggest that means it's broken..

Added female skaters to HUT.. that's more of a roster update rather than anything new..

Updated the presentation.. what was added was extremely over hyped and upset a lot of people. 

Last chance puck movement (was Zegras flip added this year or last?) .. this was the big animation addition. I see it once every few games..

Made stick lifts pointless to try.. no updates were made, you've admitted to this in the past.

We still have constant dressing room kicks, freezing when leaving the dressing room, getting randomly booted in eliminator is still around..

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Cross play is not broken. It was the same way in FIFA as well. It's entirely possible this is going to expand after its initial introduction.

I see last chance puck movement in almost every game.

I said stick lifts are being investigated. I'm in agreement they need to be tuned better, but I've also gotten used to them and don't take penalties often now.

Not everyone gets kicked from the dressing room. I haven't had that happen once yet. I'm not saying there's no problem, but not everyone has the same issues.

I hate the issue with presentation as well. Hopefully, it returns. It was not intended to be removed, but had to be.

@EA_Aljo 

To the broader community, anything less than full crossplay is going to be seen as "broken" - while not technically correct, it's sorta just the accepted buzzword. I don't personally think full crossplay with consoles will change much but I guess we'll see.

I only started seeing last chance things happening in the last few games I played about a month ago and they just kept happening - it was so jarring and I felt like it was messing up what I was trying to do (like I couldn't even get hit properly if that makes any sense).

Stick lifts have always needed tuning -- after getting 5 penalties in a row a few years back I decided to never stick lift again - best thing I've ever done, NHL-wise.

Never once gotten booted from the dressing room due to any error? I honestly can't believe that; you need to buy a lotto ticket lol.

While I don't get booted too too often, there is a constant need for my buddy and I to exit WoC/reset/manually leave the dressing room because it feels like matchmaking freezes up and/or *something* weird is happening.

@TTZ_Dipsy 

We see a lot of claims that the game is broken and unplayable, yet those same accounts have hundreds or more games played on them. When a game is broken, you can't play it. I get that it's a buzzword, but it's also highly inaccurate and gets used most often when something happens that someone doesn't like. Stick lifts are another example. They are working as intended. They aren't broken. This is the same with crossplay. Could they both be improved? Absolutely. The limited crossplay in 23 was a very big feat. I think it's better to get some crossplay in rather than none. It's also good to learn from its implementation to help with fully adding it in the future.

In 23 I can't recall getting kicked from the dressing room. I don't know what magical combination my friends and I have, but we encounter almost 0 errors. There have been a couple times one of them were changing gear or editing loadouts in the dressing room and that's known to cause this problem, but it's extremely uncommon with us. 

I don't know if connections have anything to do with it, but I haven't disconnected or gotten the unexpected error issue this year in WoC and haven't disconnected in HUT. Not that I recall at least. We haven't had to reset the dressing room either. It's always relatively easy to get matched. However, I also have a very solid connection. Again though, I'm not saying there are no issues. The team is aware of these reports so hopefully, we'll see improvements at some point.

I can definitely understand why so many are unhappy with the performance of the game and it certainly has bugs to fix, tuning to be done and general issues, but to say the whole game is broken and unplayable is just not correct. Unless there's a very specific part of the game that makes you not want to play it. For example, if the lack of full crossplay makes you not want to play, then you'll deem it to be unplayable, but that doesn't mean it is for everyone. As an example, I don't play our new golf game due to multiplayer not being turn based. It's not unplayable though. I just lose a ton of the fun factor without it.